Top tier ARB

It is, and that’s no insulting. Checking your record, you flew a lot of planes, but not a single one often enough to become good at it. Seems to me you never learned the basics: Judging enemy’s energy state, positioning yourself correctly, fighting against multiple enemies, reversing, choosing targets. When you didn’t learned it in lower tiers in a way you don’t have to think about it, toptier never will be your friend, because in toptier there is no time to think about it. Another point is, I guess there are only a view planes in your record with an ass crew. E.g. flying a F5 with or without an ass crew is a huge difference. And in toptier the difference is much bigger, because you can fly manouvers most of your opponents are not able to.
AirRB is a lot of try n’ error.
If you are willing to get better, search for a good squadron with a learners squadron and training sessions. And then you will see how many work it is to become a good pilot. ;-)

Explain to me then why the British Eurofighters have more KD than the Italians when they have the same plane

Different players… can’t say anything else since the plane is literally the same.

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It’s not me who wrote this, I took back this message coming from this person who comes to pollute the forum with their KD stories, we should ask them. FWP88

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Once again, I am talking about statistics at the end of the game when most players haven’t made a single kill yet, while the game has only just begun. I’m not talking about learning; otherwise, are all those people who don’t have the time to launch a single missile while the enemies are all dead useless as you claim? What do you not understand in my message? It is quite simple: games are generally too fast, period.

Let’s not forget the vehicles themselves in this equation, because it’s a very important one.

Is the vehicle stock? Partially finished researching mods? Spaded?

What vehicle is it? What does it face? How does it stack up in the BR range it faces?

Being good at the game is only one part of the equation, but even a good player can only do so much with a bad vehicle on a bad map - And all of the maps are bad.

Having looked at your replays it looks like you are backing off too much, and fly low too much. Although I can see that you have been stock grinding the mirage and f18, so all of them may not be fully representative.

I find the most effective strategy to keep climbing and fully relying on notching missiles. That way you can capitalize on your positioning to reliably kill unspotted people at multipath height if there is no one to contest you. If there are people to contest you, you can have some fun fights and demolish people with the MICA.

Games are very fast and if you fly low and safe you will absolutely get bored, since everyone you spot will already have 10 other people trying to kill them. Fly high and aggressive and you will have a lot more fun.

What I (and, by extension, you aswell) think, feel or believe in is not important. What is Important is that if some X plane has the highest winrate, k/d and k/b among the entire rank 8 all at the same time, then for all intents and purposes it will be referred to as “the best”.

Then, if some Y player has his stats in X plane lower than “average” by a factor of 2, that would be at the very least highly concerning.

And then when Y expresses his very important opinion on how everything is so shit and ufair and unfun and whatever, despite his performance in X being through the floor, it just becomes comical. Simple as, really.

Win rate is team skill.
KDR on Statshark is player skill.
For consistent players, KDR in relation to other vehicles that specific player uses is vehicle related.

Scientific method.
I checked Defyn and his Rafale stats are effectively identical to his other aircraft.

Wrong. Now say with a straight face that HORDES of premium mirages (have you seen 12.0ish France lately?) who usually skip the entire tree to get to Rafale magically are good enough this game to get 64%wr, while any other nation, no matter how minor/major, is not all of a sudden, not even close in fact. Sweden pales in comparison, let alone IT/CN/JP etc. Not even to mention that “historic” nation compositions in ARB is thing long gone and forgotten.

It just so happens that the WT’s entire elite just so happened to flock around France and ignore all other minor nations. Funny. Laughed. Tell me more.

Good players shifted from top Soviet ground to French air.
Simple explanation.
F-1C isn’t even a top 5 12.0 plane.
PD Phantoms, Tornado F3, JA-37D. Those alone are over 5 aircraft.
F-1C is marginally better than Mig-23ML and that’s only the case because of Magic 2s.

War Thunder’s “elite” switched from USA and Germany to USSR in 2022, or did you forget the claims of 70% BVM win rates?
Note that the T-80BVM never changed [unless it had 3BM44] from introduction in 2021 to present, yet win rate claims are all over the place.

That right here is the whole point. It is barely better and its stats reflect it. But then these exact people with these very much mid stats finally grind 14.0 and magically transform into the best performing players by all metrics in all of toptier ARB all of a sudden. Remarkable.

Yet they aren’t performing notably differently in the Rafale compared to other jets of the same class.
Back when Gripen was OP people were 2x their KDR compared to F-16, F-15, etc.
People currently are within margin of error on Rafale vs Su-30SM, F-15E/C, F-2A, etc.

Are they not, really? Because lets take something like f18 (the one at 14.0, all 3 of them) and WR differs by 10-15%, depending on nation. K/B by 1.5 times.
F-15E/? Even worse.
Su-30? Same thing, a tad better though.
EF’s? Same thing.
Compared to what exactly do they perform the same? It would seem like someone had been caught red-handed making stuff up. As if something new.

By far my fav. one is F-15I, which has WR 15% (!!!) lower and twice as low k/d. Def. doesnt look like “those” players perform about the same.

Short answer: Yes!

And that is the result of that “grinding” thing. Running through the ranks, learning nothing except full commit headons or bombing, or slinging all their missiles on every target they see.


You wanna say that`s caused by anything else than compentence?

Majority of Better KDs = shooting AI or

Running to airfield and hiding on the menus

Clubbing low BRs for overall KD boost

Wrong. K/B. Kills per battle. Player kills. Per battle. Not per death.

I play a bit of everything. I just finished the Mirage that I was missing and the German F18 that I had left to finish, but thank you for the advice, it was informative.

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??? It imcludes the AI kills…