Tokushu Heiki: F-100F Super Sabre

I was mainly talking about that one Japanese jet fighter forgot what it was called.

R2Y2, there’s a reason I didn’t mention them.
Kikka was built IRL, just not fitted with the guns before they lost.

My friend two bads don’t make a good, since they’re ahistorical they should be removed like the Panther II.

Panther 2 in-game was fake; Kikka, Yak-141, VB10-02 aren’t.

I said “removed” like the Panther II I never said they’re in the same shoes as the Panther II did I? I wish for historical accuracy no matter the nation.

The Panther II did exist but the turret was lost so the Americans slapped a already existing Panther turret onto it.

He is saying that the in-game Panther II didn’t exist, which is correct.

While the Panther II was a thing in real life, the in-game version is fake. At no point was there a plan to mount the 88 mm on the Panther II, and even the specific turret that the in-game Panther II uses could not mount the 88 mm.

Actually if im not mistaken they planned to install 88mm on Panther design but its has nothing to do with ingame Panther-2.

They drew up plans to fit the long 88 on the Schmalturm turret, requiring some modifications to be made. As far as I know, a wooden mockup of said turret was completed, but nothing more. The in-game Panther II has a Schmalturm 88, but the turret lacks any of the modifications that were required to make reloading the cannon actually feasable.

And indeed, it was only meant for the normal Panther. The Panther II had already been cancelled by them.

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Which has been stated to be the plan when they find a vehicle to replace them with.

Since the F-100F was not equipped with flares, we’ve decided not to add the AIM-9P air-to-air missile to this aircraft, which would have caused its Battle Rating to increase

Okay but you guys seriously took the F-105, which was for some insane reason a 10.7 in rank 6, and made it a 10.7 in rank 7, when the most it gets are AIM-9E’s for air to air, when lower BR planes in rank 6 get the same, or even better, missiles - even some Rank 7’s have better missiles and lower ranks. That thing is a sitting duck against the 8.3 F9F-8 that gets 4x AIM-9B’s that can easily track it since it’s also not exactly maneuverable. And ‘But you can make an unbalanced setup that has chaff’ doesn’t count especially since it has only chaff - no flares for any of the arguably deadlier hear seekers it sees. Which on a similar note - the F9F-8 is the only tech tree plane I recall that is now after the changes at Rank 5, still at a 8.3 BR, with AIM-9B’s against a bunch of planes with no missiles or countermeasures. And hey, the F-86F-2 is literally the F-25 but with 4x cannons - just like the F9F’s, but you raised it from 7.7 to 9.0 against a bunch of missile toting planes, some of which also have countermeasures to missiles?

Clearly - missiles can’t raise the BR that much if the F9F-8 has 4x at a tier that sees no CM or really any heat seekers other than those and well a premium plane, obviously whether or not it has countermeaures and all seems to not matter either when you toss the F-105 at 10.7 against planes entering service when it was basically being phased out with way more advanced weapon systems and no flares to counter all the advanced heat seekers it sees, and considering a change from 6x .50 cal’s to 4x 20 mm with less ammo than other planes in the same tree caused a 1.3 BR increase to a variant of the F-86 that otherwise has the same stats and all as it’s predecessor that’s now foldered - I’d think cutting the firepower in half would cause a significant drop in BR that likely cancels out or is still greater than any increase those missiles would give considering other planes in games at certain ranks/BR’s.

As is I can only really guess what all makes it that the F-100A in the China tech tree is at 9.7 as opposed to the US (which as I recall supplied them) F-100D is at 9.3 - which also sees some more advanced missiles, with no flares, and double the guns compared to this one, but I can not find an actual, logical reason you can’t give that thing AIM-9P’s and still keep it at that range, it’s an export version of the J, which is basically a decent upgrade of the E, and about on par with the AIM-9G seen on the AV-8 seen in the US tech tree, and not nearly as good as the AIM-9L seen on the 9.7 A-10, and a few other planes close to that range, or on other airframes that are variants of US planes where any BR increase has explanations beyond those missiles and are usually fairly small - like the increase from 9.7 to 10.3 of variants of the F-104 that aside from any other changes carry countermeasures or carry more missiles compared to the US counterpart.

So, as a player that doesn’t have the same investment others may have, cause I’m not that far up the Chinese tech tree and I always somehow miss these event vehicles other than maybe the low prize - give it the AIM-9P’s, or give it those and flares. Or, you can overhaul and explain the BR system to us to have some of what I listed above just in the US tech tree to actually make sense, especially when those 3 examples kinda ruin the reasoning for not giving this thing the right missiles.