They absolutely should be 11.7, anyone saying different probably mains them, they continuously dominate matches and are at a br where they are 90% top tier
It can also absorb the entire round and negate any ammo detonation.
centaur premium top tier is also made of glass, cv90120 is made of glass, hstvl glass, not having armor is no excuse and they are not as weak as a centaur or a cv90120 so please stop creating arguments for your own benefit
You talk about the Type 90 as if it were a CV90, which even a .50 cal can penetrate, stop defending the indefensible! The Leo2A4 has a competitive reload, average armor, and bad shells. No one complains about the Leo2A4, and you don’t see the Leo2A4 sweeping the map. The Type 90 dominates the BR because it most often faces down-tier opponents. With its mobility, 4-second reload, and very good shells for this BR, it basically destroys everything. Armor has never been and will never be a synonym for weakness
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shooting at the only armored part
True no armor doesn’t mean bad tank, but you’re wrong, the leopards do curbstomp. And the 90B and TKXP are great tanks but don’t really get many down tiers seeing that 10.3 is no longer the dominant high tier br, 10.7 is. Furthermore, a lot of popular 11.3 vehicles are now 11.7, and no, the armour is bad. It’s volumetric at times but more or less any shot from a higher caliber than 30mm will be able to kill the tank frontally. And if gaijin actually fixes volumetric that will not be as big of an issue.
The Type 90 and TKX(P) does not need to go up. They are fine where they are. They are very good simply cause the people who play them are extremely good players. It’s why Japan is crapped on by Gaijin so much. However, they are extremely weak and the mere fact that they have detailed interiors makes them suffer even more. Yes their mobility and 4 second reload make them seem OP, but that all they have going for them. Armor is dog awful, and one shot will normally kill them due to only 3 crew members.
Giving them a better shell, of which they never had anything better than JM33, just to increase the BR is stupid. You are just gonna have to deal with it. They are at that point where it if they go up they can’t do anything, but if they go down they are too OP. They can’t be moved cause no matter the direction they move them. It’s either useless or broken. So, no it does not need to go up.
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Oh boi , Alvis with another bad take
If 481mm pen isn’t enough at 11.3 and even 11.7. Then you might as well not play the tank
By this and the above logic. TKX/Type 10 shouldn’t be sitting with other 12.0. It is always funny seeing a tank that was fit for flanking have it armor brought up
If that not enough then might as well not play it ? Not even 11.7 premium can match the thing in a lot of department let alone a TT one
@スカサハ
So me saying 481mm of pen is good is a bad take?
Prove that 481mm of pen is bad, I’ll wait.
Prove that Type 10 shouldn’t be sitting at 12.0, I’ll wait.
Keep claiming the entire forum has bad takes.
Where did i say that ? You the one saying “worst round at 11.3” can you even read or just cherry picking
this is following your logic. Don’t put your word into my mouth
@スカサハ
Worst =/= bad.
And I never mentioned Type 10, you did.
So yeah, unless you were putting words in my mouth, those are YOUR statements for your beliefs.
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Following your logic , i did not say that “Type 10 should not be at 12.0” rather what i said what “By your logic they shouldn’t”
Gotta love when they can’t even read but try to cherry pick anyway
The reload is the only advantage they have over anything else.
They have the worst round at their BR by a significant margin, The Optics on the Type 90 are pretty meh, with gen1 thermals. (The TKX(P) has gen 3 though to be fair). Their armour is completely worthless too.
They are literally just a Leopard 2A4 with a faster reload.
I strongly disagree that they need to go up.
Just not playing the tank isn’t some magical solution and it thats the only option then that should be proof enough that its fine at its BR. And again, the grass isn’t always greener. Reload is nice, but i never have an issue dealing with them when i meet them, 4 seconds is more than enough time to shoot them. and they’re easy to pen, easy to oneshot and even if you dont oneshot you will most likely cripple it with a shot to the turret because of the huge autoloader bustle. If you just play with your brain actually on (not directly addressing anyone here) they’re not hard to deal with. It has its strengths and weaknesses but what it looks like you’re trying to imply that 4 second reload is some magical instant win against almost anything.
don’t listen to him. he’s just a troll. look through his posts and you can see he does this all the time.