Tiger II (P) and (H)

It’s an MMO. Won’t happen.

Where is the part where they hit a rock while going 40kph?

From a historical standpoint and realism standpoint, their top speed is still too fast, 34.6 km/h is the correct top speed, 38 km/h is based on an error in the Tiger II’s driver’s manual probably copied over from the Tiger I’s driver’s manual which actually has a top speed of 38 km/h @ 2500 RPM. Other sources list the top speed @ 2500 RPM being 34 km/h including the Tiger II’s drivers manual later on.

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1: Deutsche Panzertechnik Motoren und Getriebe 1925-1945


Lists top speed of the Tiger II’s gearbox in 8th gear @ 2500 RPM being 34 km/h, all these numbers are rounded.

2: .Handbuch für Waffen, Geräte und Kraftfahrzeuge 1944
Tiger II technical data 1944.PNG
Listed as 34.6 km/H @ 2500 RPM

3: 3.Handbuch für Waffen, Geräte und Kraftfahrzeuge 1945
Tiger II technical information 1945.PNG
Listed as 34.6 km/H @ 2500 RPM

4:Germany’s Tiger Tanks: VK45.02 to Tiger II Design, Production & Modifications by Thomas L. Jentz and Hilary Louis Doyle
MAXIMUM speeds per gear for Tiger II.PNG
listed top speed in 8th gear @ 2500 RPM is 34.6 km/h

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As long as the P model goes up in BR after the update, I’m good wigh the change. Getting extra protections here and here with the new model means they can finally go to 7.0. No more slaughtering 5.7s.

Is there a report on it?

Date of introduction isn’t a balancing concern on it’s own.

Good luck getting your utopia turned into real world.
Doing this without SBMM makes no sense at all.

Also, presence of CAS ruins this theory all together as tanks can’t go toe to toe with aircraft, ever.

Yes, balance is there to provide vehicles that are in full downtiers some advantages.

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As always; it’s not about the dates, it’s about the technical capabilities technological progress that took place between the dates which imply a step up in performance… blah blah. I don’t know why I always have to explain the obvious.

Some advantages =/= easily curbstomping on near-hopeless opponents.

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I wouldn’t say the nerf was bad per se (unless your a jagdtiger then it’s awful) but with the way 6.7-7.7 meta currently is it was completely unnecessary and unwarranted.

The tigers constantly face tanks with heatfs and sabot’s, and even atgm’s at 7.7. And now it’s just an even slower target thats easier to hit at long range.

If the nerfs came along side br decompression then it wouldn’t be so bad but the issue now is that it got these nerfs while still facing tanks like T-54’s and various IFV’s. The only other solution to this problem would be to move the tigers down to 6.3 or 6.0 but then that just creates a whole new set of problems.

So honestly while i don’t hate these nerfs I do think they need to be reversed and held off until the br’s become more decompressed and made so that the tigers don’t get annihilated by Cold War tanks while just trying to leave spawn a the start of the game.

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I disagree, the tiger 2 can already do more in an uptier than many other heavy tanks, for example the tiger 2 can do more to an ifv than the 75 jumbo can to the tiger 2 h it fights in an uptier even after the mobility nerf

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Then Tigers and whole 6.7 are long in line after some other BRs to receive help because of your issue.

They aren’t near hopeless.

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What about 5.7s that had to see Tiger II H.

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Decompression is required across the board.

Same goes for them. As I said: ACROSS THE BOARD.

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I wouldn’t mind any of this. Artilitery have always been the biggest threat.

Pretty much my ping will give the commander 3 second to decide.

Put it back to realistic reload and dump it BR downwards.

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How it should have been.

The KV-2 should be a worse KV-1

yes it even has an very bad accuracy.

Agreed.

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Tiger II - Wikipedia V-12 Maybach HL 230 P30 petrol engine
700 PS (690 hp, 515 kW) This was His engine

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That’s true. The problem is more the lack of options in the lineup than the vehicles themselves. As someone else has said in thread, mobility is the meta.

The P can be frontally killed by many 5.7 guns rather trivially. It wasn’t 7.0 material before the nerf, suggesting it should go up now is just comedy. A general decompression is always welcome of course, but with that turret, this tank is never gonna hover far from where it’s at now.

That’s not relevant. Regardless how you personally feel about it, it’s not the business model Gaijin is pursuing, so when we talk about their vehicles, realism is not the only consideration.

Easy to see why they don’t do that. Lots of newer players who don’t know their weakspots would really struggle to kill it. They’re not aiming for a placement that’s both competitively balanced and perfectly historical, they’re settling for just competitively balanced. Path of least resistance, all that. It’s what they do for every vehicle, so…

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