Thoughts on making top-tier SPAA immune to multipathing?

Which within the context of ARH SAMs, is 50% due to MP.

Having a missile launched from a stationary platform from a specific area of the map being just as prone to multipath as a missile launched from an f15e going mach 2 at 10km altitude from anywhere on the map is just dumb

Also I love how people scream about how OP cas is yet when they are presented with an opportunity to nerf it, they go against it

Yeah it is, especially when most SAMs iirc, are less affected by MP than air launched missiles. I think CAMM was test fired at a naval target or something

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I’d say yes but I will stay on a “maybe” until we see the effects of such a major change on gameplay. Overall though I would say that sth like this is needed for future balancing in regards to more advanced weapons, gen 5 aviation, ARM missiles and ECM.

In the more recent patches we have already seen an increased emphasis being placed upon intercepting enemy A-G munitions while destroying the enemy aircraft itself has become somewhat of a secondary objective. SAMs which perform well in this regard need to have a lot of interceptors and maybe even a pair of guns like we have seen on the “old” Pantsir S1 and the soon to be Pantsir SM SV. Sadly though many nations simply do not have the luxury of these types of system. Aside from the IRIS-T and maybe the SAMP/T most simply can not effectively kill enemy aircaft and need to - as said before - make shooting down munitions their primary objective and on a 1:1 basis this will quickly expend all their available ammo.

New systems like the S400 and Patriot PAC-3 are not wonder weapons and won’t suddenly fix this situation. In order to bring these systems up to standard their lethality has to be increased. And probably the easiest way is to improve their resistance to multipathing on a case to case basis.

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In 3rd person, a higher multipath height is required due to perspective shifting making 60 meters more dangerous than first person 40 meters.
A multipathing jet is also one not currently engaging your team, and stalling CAS operations seems to be how things are shifting.

Oh please tell someone in telecommunication industry, i think this work is worth a nobel prize lmao

And i’ve been sent this report time and time again, of at best tertiary source which you can see is more of an encyclopedia and even directly says RIM-7M is based on AIM-7E (contrary tto the report)

And then if you look at the source? JANES!

  1. Richardson, D., NAval Armament, Jane’s, New York, 1982.-

And yes you can probably do 5m in calm sea with radar at 0m looking up with the missile using proximity fuse to work. Not in like any situation in warthunder.

Tho i do wish look up from 0 ->50m would work better

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Reduce Mpath altitude significantly. 60m is absurdly forgiving

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Its not because trees in this game a 100m tall but you dont care about that do you?

ok and? the whole point of multipath being decreased is that it would be unusable


me when the magical trees appear along the runway

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It’s air defense for anti-strafing

dont fly over trees then.

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multipath doesnt need to be decreased, it needs its mechanics implemented (look up at low alt)

and first fix trees

how exactly is a ARH SAM supposed to look up at an aircraft at low altitude exactly

It’s not forgiving in the 3rd person perspective, especially with the average tree height being the upper end of tree heights rather than the real-life average.

In 1st person, simulator, I can see advocating for real multipath heights, because cruising 30 meters above in sim is easier than in 3rd person.

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Yeah they invented it to make it work at altitudes where it is easy to fly in a straight line and not get his and shoot missiles at planes above against inverse monopulse seekers when it shouldn’t

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Those that can be completely nullified by just breaking LoS to the radar vehicle ?

Having 1-10m MP height is just as good as removing it outright.

If they can give everyone stock chaff in top tier.

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You don’t actually need chaff that much

I don’t really think anyone brings stock jets to ground rb either way

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