This Leopard 1 SPAA with almost 100mm pen at 5.0?

my friend’s grand pa’s tractor with a ak47 mounted on its cab is stronger than pain80. invalid argument.

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ooof, classic case of whining because this vehicle is not in the tree you main in. 350 german vehicles you bet you will complain why german ones get 50mm pen and italians dare to get a spaa that pens 100mm, how rude of them… touch grass touch grass.

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That’s the better response I have ever seen in my life. +1

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Will do. I’m sure the Leopard will be more than polite enough to sit still and let my Sturer Emil switch from APHE to HE in a convenient timeframe. And even if it isn’t, I can always press spacebar on it, right? :P

Just as an example, on Abandoned Factory, this AA is fast enough to get from the eastern spawn inside the factory overlooking the western spawn, before you’ve even been able to reach any kind of position where to fight from. It can and will open fire at you while you’re still in the open, barely out of spawn, from a position where it can quickly duck back behind the wall. Do you really think you’ll have time to switch to HE in a situation like that? I’ve already seen it happen several times because good Italian players who know what they are doing, can use that mobility to do things that would not otherwise be possible. Maybe you think it’s balanced for an SPAA to spawn camp you on your literal first spawn sixty seconds into the match, but I don’t.

This is another R3 situation, and it’s due to the same reasons too, which is just dumb.

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And its always the Italians which get these stupid op autocannon vehicles. A mobile Leopard 1 chassis with almost Gepard like penetration at this BR is meh.

Why is Kugelblitz 7.0 at all? Less pen, less mobility, less gunhandling, less protected…errmm who is doing BRs for Italy lately?

The Kugel have 30mm in the turret, the Leofors no. And the hull of the Leo can be penned by the 5.0’s tank (I got penned frontally by an ASU-57 at 200 m and by a KV-1 from less than 10 m).

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Because they are afflicted by serious gaps. That’s a real issue, and not one to be discounted. The problem is that Gaijin’s creative solutions to fill those gaps usually do not work out.

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What if your me playing a poor little Japanese tank at 4.7 and it’s raping you from the front while your teammates are nowhere to be found

also M53/59 is at 6.3 with 93 mm of pen and no armor

In this case, pray.

Compared to this the BR of the Leopard 1 SPAA chassis is totally not understandable. Should be BRed like the Falcon.

Are you really comparing a single barrelled with a double one? This is why the russian and the British ones are highter

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Cause it matter so much whether you lol brrrp tanks with one or two barrels while racing around with 65 km/h. Man, even the reverse speed of that thing is higher than the forward speed of most WW2 tanks.

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But the Leopard is still vulnerable at the machine gun and HE. A lot vulnerable.

Almost every SPAA is. Thats not special.

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This have 4/5 of crew around the gun. Not all the SPAAG have this thing.