There is a clear bias towards the USA/USSR in the air in the BR ranges from 8.0-8.7 and that needs to be addressed

Alvis in fact, does not.

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I said your points 1, 3, 4, and 5 were valid points.

I said a historical fact.

You claimed I was wrong so prove it or admit we agree more than disagree.

I want you to lay out exactly in no uncertain words what you think we disagree on.

We disagree on point number 2:

That’s it, that’s all we disagree on in this topic.
That’s why I listed every tech tree with aircraft that were moved down, and aircraft which should’ve moved up but didn’t due to others moving down to meet them.

How do you disagree with #2 but don’t see issue with #3

Cause Swift F1 does feel worse. The Swift F7 is the only one I play because of that.
Mystere does feel worse.
Venom does feel worse.
And J29, at least the 7.7 ones, feel worse.

Your statement is aligned with my experience in all but the Venom cause I don’t like the Venom’s playstyle so I never used it but had that opinion regardless due to basic cross-analysis.

You have literally negated your own point yourself.

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??? So you don’t even disagree with point #2, because you listed more minor nation aircraft that suffer to this than ones that didnt change

It’s just BR compression hell that everyone has to deal with, not that BR compression should exist.

It’s Gaijin’s fault and their responsibility to address. Instead they keep dragging their feet.

Honestly, I already lost any hopes since Gaijin removed 9.7BR hardcap in 2020 :/

Even then, the compression was awful, but I had no idea that the BR would be compressed even more after version 2.1.

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Read the full post, you’ve skipped over the word “purely” many times now.

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“Minor nations” [which don’t exist really], had aircraft whose BRs were lowered, or aircraft that should’ve moved up that didn’t because aircraft moved down instead of decompression occurring.

Decompression should’ve occurred instead and aircraft such as A-4H should’ve been moved up to be in-line with Mig-15Bis’ BR of 8.7 instead of Bis being moved to 8.3.

it isn’t, as demonstrated by points #2/3 in OP

Yes, ONLY MiG and F-86 designs that were not native. Not a SINGLE native aircraft had their BR lowered when the F-86/MiG15/17 had theirs lowered.

None of the aircraft you pointed out should have moved up, they were fine.They should be moved up IF the game got decompressed, maybe, but that wasn’t what happened.

A-4H is not an equivalent to the 15bis.

You don’t understand that it is a conflict.

If it is not determined by “purely” players stats alone, then the Ki-84 Hei overtiering issues in AAB should not happen.

CL-13 Mk.4 that is almost same as A-5 Sabre, and Ki-84 Hei in AAB proves that they don’t take into consideration the performance of the vehicles and just look at the player’s statistics.

BTW, CL-13 Mk.4 was 9.3 BR for a few months when it comes.

I don’t even know why.

It actually is, because it all rounds back to the compression issue that Gaijin refuses to address properly.

Doesn’t matter how you try to slice it, it all boils down to a compression issue.

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? If it was compression the worst jets would have went down with the best jets that got downtiered.

It’s both.

Compression caused them to go down in the first place, as well as creating the situation that led to them being downtiered.

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If true, the lesser aircraft that got left behind would have went too.They (Venom, G.91, Javelin, Mysteres, Hunter, etc) did not.

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Which is where the player skill part comes in.

They had the worse stats, so they were moved down. They were also moved down due to compression.

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You seem to forget that minor nations are ignored by the playerbase at large, and that Gaijin loves to idiotically uptier/downtier by statistics rather than the vehicle’s own capabilities.

A flag? Lmfao. Adorable.

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