The Xm1s should be buffed to stay competitive

First it’s reload is ridiculous at 7.8sec with one off the worst apfsds rounds at this br

It needs one of 2 things to stay competitive
Ether 1 it gets the production Abram’s reload with a base of 6.5sec and a max of 5sec
Or
2 it gets m774 which will allow it to at least effectively pen the hull of the recently buffed t64a and t74a both can out reload out armor and pen far more then you

As for flanking as it stands you regularly can’t do that do to map design makeing your mobility not as great of a advantage as it should be makeing it more about armor and gun reload speed and pen rather then mobility.

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Also why don’t the xm1s have smoke dispensers?

Its got a 1.3 KD, if it did get M774 it would need to go to at least 9.7

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Would rather that than not pen every time on a t72a or t64 or the fact they get 420mm pen apfsds with better reload speed and automatic loading
All I ask for is ether slightly better apfsds or better reload
For reference
M735 (what the xm1 has)
292mm pen at 0 angle at 10m 169mm at 60 angle
3BM22 (top round the t72a and t64a gets)
425mm of pen at 10m 0 angle 193mm of pen at 60 angle
VS
M774 ( the round that can be added for the xm1)
372mm pen at 10m 0 angle
215mm pen at 10m 60 angle

At you can see they are roughly equal with m774 tradeing flat pen for more angled pen

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xm1 does not need a buff
im like average at best and i nearly have a 2:1 kd in the thing

if it went to 9.7 it would not have any lineups available to 95% of players

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xm1 has 6.7s reload when aced which is better than the T72 and worse than T64. Its got far better mobility, gun handling and optics than either of them and absolutely doesnt need a reload or ammo buff. god forbid your run of the mill US main has to aim for weakspots

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lilbro do you even have the xm1?

Spoiler

That is a bold statement towards a country that literally spends the majority of its tech trees having to aim for weak spots due to lack of penn.

Less then 1% of people with the tank will have it aced, you cant take ace values as the norm.

you ONLY take aced + spaded stats into consideration when talking about balance lmao. inb4 ‘muh stock basic crew m1 is worse than t64 better move abrums to 9.0’

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Im not saying take basic crew as baseline, but we also shouldnt take max crew aced as the baseline, it should be somewhere inbeetween as that is where most people will have it.

Crew stats suck, both buying expert and especially researching/buying ace. But that doesnt mean that it doesnt exist.

it has a 6.7 reload with ace, if its basic crew or expert fire rates get buffed then so would its ace reload speed, the average player might not benefit from that but anyone with the faster reload definetly would and it would become an OP beast, and both expert and ace are acquirable for free with effort and/or time.

What next? Its slow stock and therefore it needs an engine buff?

Not it’s round still sucks and it still has no survivability

The XM1 did get a buff - it is called the M1

A quick look at the wiki.

They both have great mobility, way above the average

The Chrysler one looks to have quite decent survivability, the GM one does appear to be lacking, but is faster still.

Chrysler one has really good optics and both have TVD at a BR where TVD is not that common which is a massive bonus. TVD doesnt really become common until 9.7+

The reloads look fine at 6.7 seconds which is fairly decent for the BR.

The only negative looks to be shells which mostly rely upon HEATFS or relatively low pen APFSDS to kill which both have issues, but given the overall package, the only reason its not higher than 9.0 is the shells, buff the shells, increase the BR. A lot

Let’s get this started then first every 9.3 tank and there respective rounds

Germany
T72m1 3bm22 425mm pen
Kpz70 xm578e1 285mm pen
M48 super DM33 421mm pen
Leo 1a5 DM33 421mm pen
Leo1a1 (L/44) DM 13 393mm pen
USSR
Bmp3 9m117m1 750mm tandem
2s25 3bm42 457mm
Object 775 Rubin 500mm heat
T64a 3bm22 425mm pen
T72a 3bm22 425mm pen

Great Britain
Olifant mk2 DM63 430mm pen
Vfm5 dm33 421mm pen
Rooikat dm33 421mm pen
MTTD dm33 421mm pen
Khalid shot L23 410mm

Japan
Type 74 G type 93 405mm pen
Type 16 (p) and (FPS) DM23 338mm pen
Stingray DM33 421mm pen
China
ZTZ 96 type 1985-1 apfsds 466mm pen
Cm11 DM63 430mm pen
Italy
T72m1 3bm22 425mm pen
Leo1a5 dm33 421mm pen
Centauro 105 dm23 338mm pen
Vcc-80/60 m300 249mm pen
Of-40(mtca) dm33 421mm pen

French
Amx-30 super ofl 105 f1 361mm pen
Amx32 105 ofl 105 f1 361mm pen
Sweden
Leo 1a5no2 DM33 421mm pen
T72m1 3bm22 425mm pen
Strv 105 slpprj m/90c 430mm pen

USA
XM1 Chrysler m735 292mm pen
XM1 GM m735 292mm pen
Mbt70 XM578e1 285mm pen
Stingray DM33 421mm pen

As you can see the only 9.3 tank with a worse penetrating round is the mbt 70 with 285mm pen
Every other tank gets rounds that pen more then 330mm
It’s not a lot to ask for at lest a better shot

Now compare their mobility and which ones get TVD

Most western ones have thermal sights to

Some maybe, for example Chieftain Mk10 at 9.0 does not.