I love warthunder, but what the HELL, I just started Germany 6.7 and im being put up against cold war 7.7’s every match, no breaks, I’ve only gotten 7 matches that are 6.0-7.0 out of the 26 matches that are 7.3-7.7, I am getting NO breaks. It is entirely unfair that I have to face these 7.7’s so much, I am concerned about the uptier system and how broken it is. Call me trash, call me unskilled, but I dont think its fair for anyone except sweats to be uptiered to be against cold war vehicles while in WW2 tanks. And look at is as you just started the game, you barely know what you’re doing, and you get uptiered against things you don’t even know where to begin how to fight, ATGM’s, autoloaders, a new player would be having an aneurysm, im level 81, and even so, I cannot fight these cold war tanks effectively. Even as I played Sweden to toptier, I would be in 8.0/8.7 tanks and get constant uptiers against things I had no idea to fight.
Yeah the RNG sucks but uptiering into new mechanics is just part of the game, they are adding new tutorials to teach about them
Instead of adding tutorials, why dont they just let you face off against your own BR and make it so you wont need a tutorial to face against something that should be fixed.
Its part of the experience, for better or worse. It also comes down to balancing, some vehicles simply cant be properly balanced.
To demonstrate on the most obvious example, Maus at its own BR is questionable because even mediums have no issues penetrating the turret, and it absolutely sucks in uptier. But it gets to shine in downtiers, so theres that consolation price. It cant be moved down in BR because if it was moved further down, say 7.0 then in full downtier game, there would be tanks that cant pen it anywhere, which would make for poor gameplay experience (for anyone NOT in Maus).
God is dead, embrace the suck.
They consider uptiers when determining what BR to place a vehicles, its by design
The mechanics would still be fine if your team were matched fairly. But lately, I keep seeing matches where one side has several full downtier lineups, while the other side has none. So not only do you have to face stronger lineups, but your own team doesn’t even have equally strong ones.
And this happens even though there are plenty of players available.
Uptiers are nasty in that br range from 7.0-8.3 imo, due compression and just vehicles in that br range being such a difference in capability and hard to balance. Mostly why i prefer to avoid these brs, shame tho since there are so many cool vehicles there
Flawed design imo.
Skill issue imo
Up to 4 downtier players and unlimited uptiers. Flawed matchmaker.
despair
It comes down to balancing decisions regarding armor.
Medium and light tanks will play mostly the same no matter if its uptier or downtier. They cannot really afford to tank hits.
Tanks that rely on armor however, follow different logic. Their armor is mostly made irrelevant in uptiers, but makes them absolute powerhouses in downtiers, as I tried to demonstrate on the Maus example.
If the tanks were made to only face tanks of the exact same BR as you proposed, ie.no uptiers or downtiers, you would eventually run into problem that some tanks, mostly heavy ones, would eventually got pushed up in BR due to being too effective fighting at their own BR. At this new BR, their armor advantage would become irrelevant, which would mean they would no longer effective, which would mean they would need to be pushed down in BR again.
And with how rare BR changes are, it would be complicated to say at least.
Of course this whole logic goes out of window once we reach MBTs, so pay it no deeper thought. Im kinda drunk and cooking with water, so it doesnt make too much sense lol.