Calling man a “dawg” while all you do yourself is bark, funny
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@ShOt_MaCkEr
Come on Shot, I know you’re more rational than that post.
12Gs is high maneuverability, even 9Gs is.
And the fact that your post is calling the Eurofighter corporation liars and artificially nerfing the Typhoon by making it the best airframe in War Thunder is honestly irrational.
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Now that’s a stab in the nuts. I would like to believe you man. And obviously it might still be the best airframe in the game. But compared to what we had during the previous patch - it has been nerfed. My biggest regret is that I can’t quite figure out what exactly has changed, while knowing, seeing and feeling that it has been. Same as some other people though, so I know that I’m not going insane.
I’m not an ARB player, because I hate the new low visibility meta, that’s why I judge purely from it’s GRB performance. And with 18xBrim/2xASRAAM/2xAMRAAM loadout it’s not functional anymore. During the patch day I’ve conducted a run with “anti-pantsir” loadout (6xBrimm, 8xPavewayIV) and got shot down by a pantsir, because typhoon refused to turn. Which is shameful. Jokes aside - I do really want to get to the bottom of it. And my bet is that they did something with instructor. I’m gonna try full real controls right now to see if it feels the same with a previous patch.
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Now THAT post is what I expect from you.
I apologize for my previously harsh post; I wanted to see you stop lashing out and start questioning.
Yes, the Typhoon went to 12Gs, you will need to adjust for that change if you’re not use to it.
Yes, there’s new drag at the highest indicated speeds, you’ll need to adjust for that.
What hasn’t changed, which is what my initial post was addressing was the 900kph area where air RB furballs are managed, and brakes off to mach 1.5 which matters for the start of the match in hyper-aggressive play.
That was the parameters of my post, not exceeding those parameters. Not 1200kph, not mach 2.
And I apologize that wasn’t specified at the beginning.
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I’m sorry for being all emotional before, would never happen again.
It’s actually not 12Gs
I looked further into what kind of trouble I’m having right now. You see, with that loadout, for example, at speeds higher than ~1200km/h performing the same turn as on the screenshot above It just refuses to lose speed because, I presume, low AoA that it’s allowed to pull. You can try it out yourself.
When it comes to low speed maneuvers - my point is that it became janky all of the sudden. With or without the AoA button. With the limiter off, for example, instructor tends to level the frame seemingly without any reason to do so. Because you enter a turn, turn off the AoA limiter - frame is being automatically leveled, turn it on and it performs the same turn just fine, off again - leveling of the frame. My bet here is that they meddled with stalls (possibly drag as well) too much, which as we know, instructor is trying to prevent, hence all the overcompensation. I tested the F-18 and for some reason it’s low speed maneuverability feels much better, like it’s pulling where it is pointed, instructor isn’t trying to obstruct your commands. Unfortunatelly I haven’t been paying enough attention to it’s flight model before this patch, because I’ve been fully satisfied with it and the only thing I wasn’t expecting is a nerf, lol. That’s why I struggle to put my feelings into numbers right now.
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Wait until you find out F-15E is 6-7Gs with its loadout. ;)
Yeah, the heavier an aircraft gets, the instructor adjusts.
Also if you want some advice: Full internal fuel is a bit over 7 minutes on full afterburner.
If you want to do ~4 minute sorties, run 17 minutes of fuel on spawn for Typhoon.
With 6xMaverics that’s hardly a problem. In order be as effective with brimstones you need more than this, ahaha.
That’s exactly the amount I usually take.
That’s the whole point. We’ve been talking about the pulling performance and radar of the Typhoon. I have not complained about its speed because it has been great since it came out. Unlike it’s radar that is as bad as it was before and now the 12 G’s at high speeds. So I hope this topic gets recognition and Gaijin does something about it because if we are being honest, the Typhoon should be one of the best performing aircraft out there alongside the Rafale, Gripen and maybe the F15E.
The EFT was by far the most capable jet FM-wise in the game and could effortlessly walk over anything else, how was this fair? The nerf was more than deserved.
That’s the whole point. The jet is built like that for a reason. It is supposed to pull very hard. But Gaijin indeed mess up it’s energy retention since it should be worse. The energy retention for most delta wings is absurd (Gripen, Rafale, Typhoon etc.). That’s not the only nerf. If you had the Typhoon you wouldn’t say that the nerf was deserved. Now even the russian jets have a better radar when it is supposed to be about the same, performance wise.
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I would because it’s just straight up unfair to everyone else lol, it can out-dogfight everything else, out-BVR everything else, has a really good loadout. There is no downside to the EFT over other jets at its BR.
Then it shouldn’t have been added when it was, or should have a much higher BR. You can’t have it both ways.
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Damn almost like it was designed for it.
This is like complaining the Spitfire was good.
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Rafale is no Mach 2 aircraft. All sources state 1.8 max. Except war thunder. Rafale also pulls 15g, while its contenders can’t. Rafale also have an unprecedented op radar and the 50g micas.
Rafale is Gajins fav and weeps the floor in GRB and ARB.
Yet it’s loadout is still mising a lot of weaponry which you would know if you have checked the responses of this topic. Also now with the “cobra button” it isn’t even close to out-dogfighting everything and has a shitty radar. That’s what you leave out of the conversation. THE RADAR is the most important aspect of these jets. For god’s sake these jets ARE MODERN they NEED GOOD RADARS. The EF has a HORRIBLE radar. Could we do something about that?
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See the following:
We have a BR system for a reason, and its not to have one plane run around being superior to everything else that it can see.
And yet it’s still easily the best top tier jet.
It still is, the cobra button is a noob trap, you can just avoid them for all of 3 seconds and wait until they fall out of the air.
And yet you regularly see them dominating matches. Maybe it’ll deserve a radar fix if it gets moved to 15.0.
MICA has much shorter range than AIM-120
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God has made a mistake of giving you fingers just to write that horrendous pile of garbage
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What are you talking about? If you nerf something to be more balanced you need to nerf everything to be equally balanced otherwise you do not balance shit within the game. You just nerf one thing and leave everything else broken.
Exactly, If Typhoon has AOA and G limit nerfed then so should other airframes that regularly exceed a realistic G limit.
Rafale, Su-27 hell even an F-4 is overperforming in that regime.
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There’s nothing to do, Eurofighter group documents says it’s more accurate now than it was before.
Typhoon is already the best performing aircraft.
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It cannot be and isn’t the best performing aircraft if it doesn’t have a good radar. In these modern jets the most vital part is the radar. It’s not the stone age anymore.