Why would this tank pass the audit without a real car?? This is unfair to other drawing cart suggestions. Even if the model is completed, it should not be passed, only if the real car has been manufactured and part of it has been completed.
Did you explictly miss the part where I said “could work” and gave examples where the Ho-Ri and Entwicklung series already have manufactured weapons and armor estimates?
The E-10/E-25 are just better Hetzers, the E-50 is just a better Panther, and the E-75 is just a better King Tiger, but they all share existing technology for the time.
Did you also miss the fact that Russian performance numbers in WT are greatly embellished from their real-life performance, with the greatest current issue being the BMP-T, which also happens to somehow get a blowout panel without having one?
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It was passed because it was partially completed. As the suggestion says the weapon, armor plates, and other vehicle parts were made for it.
This historical vehicle should replace the fictional Ho-Ri Prototype / Ho-Ri Production that are currently in game.
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Ho-Ri’s in game could be removed, so it makes an insanely fun vehicle rare, which is pretty good actually.
But I’m totally against any cahnges to the Ho-Ri Production which is just too fun to die. They already killed my beloved TKX(P)…
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If you mean O-I with 105mm gun and 150mm gun so there is an issue that 105mm gun O-I is fake
I mean it is not paper or canceled plan, it is just fake, imagination
O-I with 150mm at least can probably get HEAT round
But maybe not, idk
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Part of it was completed.
That is a guideline of the suggestions.
In this case, iirc the Gun was completely unique to the Ho-Ri and was used, documented and tested but never fitted to another vehicle, and therefore qualifies as a unique part and therefore an unfinished prototype. I’m not sure about Armour or other parts.
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Didn’t found HEAT rounds. might look around again, see if there is an edit at the end.
But for the main gun: The first idea was the “type 120 O-I Heavy”, with would be a 120+ tons tank, with a 105mm, and same hull. Some pleople said that a single exemple would have been build or almost finished and shipped to Manchuria, against the russian counter-offensive in the actual North-Korea.
But at this point I think we’re pretty close to inside jobs.
The “later” variant would be the Type 100 O-I, with 100tons and a higher caliber main gun.
But it is very weird, some other sources are showing the opposite with calibers and weight.
Honestly, I think for the original O-I, there were multiples design or sketches done, either very quickly or wrongly or even misused (to show the tracks, a weird hull was quickly drawn or some others).
All those leads to literature and invented tanks; world of Tanks did lot of research on those, and did a whole line with different O-I, they called O-Ni, Type 4, and idk what else.
SENSHA: Fake Japanese Super-heavies
“Kunihiro Suzuki officially revealed and published these [blueprints] in the summer of 2015. Prior to this, information on the vehicle remained subject to great skepticism. Authors of various books and other media interpreted the tank in their own artistic licensing. Because of this, many false versions of the tank exist. Some of these interpretations have been regarded as separate projects, or the real accounts of the tank and its history.”
We need to remind that the blueprint were public only in the summer of 2015; therefore, all research and magazine had to rely on description often bad of the tank, and given to artist to re-draw.
That’s my point of view on the O-I. But factually speaking, it was originaly for real tought to be with a 105, then changed to a 15cm.
And I’m preobably wrong, so please tell me if I am.
Edit: there is indeed a 150mm HEAT, used on the Type 96 artillery.
but in the document where it should list every shells (TM 9-1985-5), there is only 3 lines about it. so it was either experimental, or very uncommon. Even tho all others have 1, 1,5 or even 2 page of cuts, explanations, and numbers.
Also, depending on who you ask, three E 25 hulls may have been built. As far as the E50/E75 go, the only thing we know for sure about them is that their suspension is different.
There is some sources that state parts for the E-10 and E-25 might have had parts made.
ya even if the harden plates where not made giving it soft steel for the sake of accuracy would be a disaster.
Nice nice.
Id still keep the current ones with sloped armor with some fixes in game just add this one.
The the br… 7.0 or 7.3 are pretty much nonsence given its basically just same gun worse armor prototype one if we compare to ones in game which is already overtiered at its 6.7 br Id see this at 6.0 or 6.3 at worst its paper armor tankdestroyer for 6.7 even hull down 125 mm is nothing for the br american mediums at the br would have more armor not even talking about the 75 mm plate when not hull down or behind cover.
Same with Ho-ri production. If it gets its engine power lowered its not worth 7.3.
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The hull was simplified, and the front plate is slightly more sloped, from what I know.
Either way, I don’t take much issue with these vehicles being in WarThunder, as they’re basically just our current vehicles but a slight BR higher.
If it is possible to find those, that would be great.
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I will try to dig them up but there not the best.
One of them, from what I remember, is an interrogation of the lead designer. He claimed three E-25 hulls had been sent to the proving grounds for completion.
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That was the one. Which is why its not the best as similar stuff happened in Japan of ya be built some stuff. Can we see it? no. Similar stuff happened concerning projects being developed in captured territory in China by Japan a lot of the stuff kind of disappeared or had a project management death or the USSR took it and scrapped it.
Or in Kubinka’s backroom and forgotten about like that one French tank people think they have but don’t want to cause a crisis.
Aye, that’s basically the issue: the proving grounds the thing was allegedly set to be in were in the Soviet Occupation Zone, iirc. And obviously, there’s no way to confirm it. For all we know, he could have just been making stuff up so the US would Paperclip him.
The TE article on the E-25 cites several good sources and discusses the most common theories presented. It’s sort of like the Ostwind II in a sense in that there’s evidence there may have been something built, but it’s dubious.
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ya that’s the issue unless Gaijin decides to go back and do more WW2 stuff which they can there still lots of stuff but the proof is limited. The German engineers where also known to BS project status especially in 1945 to not get there work staff drafted even though they could not do much.
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With the T-34-88 being proven real, I am willing to believe this.
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