I’m an ARB main, I gave you 1 example, but even with tanks, I researched the SEPv2 with trophy in about 6 hours.
Oh i definitely agree there. I absolutely think what you get when you actually spend money is not enough. Especially stuff thats in the game for a long time now is just not contemporary anymore. Premium time gives too little bonuses, crew level training is too expensive and free RP conversion is just a bad joke.
Realistically, you don’t play without a premium account otherwise you wouldn’t say that.
???, ace or expert?
Free ? wtf
I have premium, i just think that the bonuses you get are too little for the amount of RP and SL we need for things these days. Steadily paying for play time should be more rewarded.
Converting RP into crew levels. But ace is also way too expensive.
Yes? The free RP you get that you can convert into real RP for the low price of 1 Ge per RP?
Don’t try to play without Premium. I played half of the F-16XL event without Premium because I wasn’t happy with the state of the game, and I kept a spreadsheet, in 6 days, playing 4 hours a day, I lost 3,600,000 SL and 400,000 RP because I didn’t have Premium.
It’s faster in the air. on the ground, I know it’s hard
Ohh Convertible RP ok That’s Gaijin’s real cash machine.
I know that f2p is terrible but that’s not my point. My point is that I think that even when people are actively spending that the payoff is not good enough.
Yeah because it’s a legacy system from before ground was a thing. It’s needs a rework.
Do you really think so? I can’t picture a single person spending on that mechanic
Play Top Tier Air 5 minutes after the update ( if gaijin add good planes )
It pays off if you’re F2P you’re constantly in the way of people who’ve had a premium account for years and don’t even realize the difference.
Doing the maths for the last 10 games (with premium account and with JUST premium vehicles), I came to this
This is essentially 6 hours of just straight up gaming. I have NOT considered breaks, long wait times due to slow servers and whatnot and these games are in my opinion, exceptionally good except the two outliers. I have added 10% on the match times for loading and waiting, but depending on the BR and where you’re from you might wait a bit longer.
Considering the average K/D in the game is around 0.7, I am going to assume that the average player makes about 60-75% of that.
My conclusion is that I am a sweaty cunt in a premium that has played this game for too long and I still need 6 hours of straight up exceptional gameplay to get ONE vehicle in 6 hours.
The grind is too long.
This is the war thunder skill curve
The skill ceiling is really high. It takes many hundreds of hours to get decent and not many people put in that much effort. In most matches, the top one or two players do 80% of the killing. However this is no precedent to say that these bad players are bad for the game and should be punished. Nor should their opinions about the game be discounted for their lack of skill.
Its important to understand that even only those really invested in the game are going to come here to the forum and voice their opinion which is also going to cause observational bias.
i mean i dont mind any player that is genuinely trying to improve and get better at the game
but there are also just a lot of players that dont care about getting good and just want to get their hands on some shiny vehicle just to realize they cant do well in it after they got it cuz up to getting this vehicle all they have ever done never required skill (looking at a certain group of players bombing with fighters over and over till they researched the next plane just to do the same thing with that plane again)
those players actively make the game worse for everyone
the people on their team and the ones fighting them
(yes i actually am a believer of the theory that killing better players is actually more fun than just killing what essentially is a bot)
the problem is
this game does encourage exactly that
get some random premium for like 50$+ and then bomb your way to top tier/the shiny plane you want just to never get actually good at the game
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Their opinions are fine
The issue comes when they try presenting their opinion as an objective fact. (or what they want would end up buying the game, like making basebombing rewards better, raising mp height or keeping mega op planes at a low br)
Which 90% of the time just makes them look stupid and results in the same thing
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ahhh
“my stats are higher than yours so im right”
is not an argument my dear friend
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I wanted to demonstrate that it’s a dumb argument to use (they’re both still green which doesn’t make that argument any better lol)
Oh wait you didn’t reply to me
Misread the stupid notification lmfao
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the main problem is
its hard for everyone to admit they were wrong
i mean even for me and you its prob not too easy to just say “yea i was wrong there mb”
now
what do you think is one thing about most of those base bombing players and others that just dont want to get better at the game
those people are pretty effing stubborn
and most of the people that actually dont want to improve also have a massive ego so
yea
you can see how thats going to end i think
I agree. But I feel like this should be resolved by buffing PvP rewards, expanding nuclear thunder or another form of ARB EC for all BR brackets, and THEN removing AI targets in ARB.
ARB has clearly evolved into a 1 life TDM gladiator style gamemode and I feel like Gaijin should just lean into it.
I despise AI planes in air RB
They’ve made me lose very winnable carry games because my radar kept locking them
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I’ve likely lost because of them simply because I wasted a missile on what I thought was an enemy player.
Not to mention getting -50k SL for teamkilling them when they don’t even show up on your HUD half the time.
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ehh
for me they are only like a bit of a jumpscare
but yea pls remove them
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Yeah
Their markers also show up really late.
Nothing but an annoyance
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