I don’t disagree with any of this, but this is how the game works. Meta switches from patch to patch, nation to nation, to get people to buy premiums and grind the new meta vehicle with.
True and thats fine mostly, usually every nation (except Britain HAHA) gets something where it shines…Oh wait no Britain gets starstreaks…anyways i cant remember any situation where you have two vehicles of the same branch of the same BR where one is simply invincible to the other, that also does way worse at its actual role (targeting ground), is absolutely helpless vs fast movers and all it takes you is a 2 second effort to kill him without counterplay? You cant sneak up to a mi28 or ah64e, stingers wont lock, PARS wont hit, you have no gun, you also cant run away?
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Yeah you are completely screwed in these scenarios. I guess take it up with the Germans to find out why the hell it doesn’t have a gun.
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I think i know why, or i read it somewhere. Anyways LIRDCM/Doppler return rework and stinger versions that actually can hit air targets when?
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Yeah so thats a slight inconvenience. This scenario is literally every single top tier ground rb match where you are trying to make a difference for your team using the top heli for germany. Is it really a scenario when it is always the case?
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PARS could benefit from a loft change and actual top-attack trajectory. The last thing we heard about it was that they were considering adding the extra 2 launchers for a total of 12 PARS, but it won’t mean much when it’s still missing proxy fuze and better lofting profiles.
even with more missiles, proxy fuze and what not im afraid they would suck; its the targetting logic I find the worst.
three missiles per pancir were bad enough, but all of the PARS missiles in the world wouldnt be able to take out things like BUK TADS because they all hit the top of the antena and thus do absolutely nothing.
Having a missile that works, lofts better and has a top-attack trajectory (that’s literally in stated in the brochure) would justify the BR change to 13.0, as of now, its BR placement it’s not fair in the slightest.
Might as well leave this here, see if gets any attention…
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0EfDA6sXcBok
Is it just me who always thinks this when seeing these kinds of threads? People only complain because they only shoot from the helipad—if they just flanked properly, it’d be fine.
ngl UHT kinda sucks
It really is 12.3 material (if not 12.0)
Pars are the worst fnf missile in the game and after the accuracy nerfs, they barely kill
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Still, I think it’s better than the AH-1Z, though. After all, it’s got FnF missiles.
I’d take 16 hellfires + 2 9Ms + 20mm gun over 8 pars and stinkers
I haven’t played the zulu but from my experience with the Peten, Saraph and Battle Hawk, compared to the Pars, 16 hellfires have much higher killing potential and a much higher skill ceiling (currently grinding french helis for the tiger with hellfires)
Also no gun is EWWWWWWWWW
Plus it has a tiny cm count
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Is Tiger really that bad…?
By the way, the AH-1Z is recommended to carry a Hydra pod, flank enemy positions, destroy anti-aircraft guns with 20mm cannons and rockets, then take out MBTs with Hellfire missiles.
Aw man, I was gonna research the tiger. Eh Heli PvE grinding is still broken anyways. Back to Air RB I guess.
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I recommend Assault Arcade; it’s better.
It’s workable… But who am I trying to kid? It’s borderline worthless at 13.0, it’s barely 12.0 material. Since at 12.0 it would still meet something like Elde and CLAWS.
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A helicopter should never have more range than a spaa, specially if it has FnF missiles.
Or its just damn unbalanced for ground units, anti-air its called like that for a reason.
Ahh I remember those times when 8km spaa faced 10km vikhirs, it was a mess.
Considering its real track record it’s not far off from reality. Ironic because its also the most expensive one
The BR of UHT should at least be reduced to 12.0 or 12.3. It is fundamentally not the same type of weapon as MI28NM and AH64E.
