The the R-60 get a buff?

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Lately that R-60M has been getting me lots more kills. Especially in the new event. I was dogfighting a F-15 and managed to get a good R-60M shot on him. He flared it properly but still had afterburners on. Normally the flares would work but this time, the missile went wide enough it missed the flares entirely… then it seemed like it was going to go for a flare and then suddenly reacquired the F-15 and killed him!

I was shocked to say the least. I know the Eagle on full burner is a big heat source but the R-60M? Usually a Taco Bell fart is enough to decoy that missile.

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use r73 xD

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No

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i feel like ir missiles were buffed for this event, they are alot stronger than they used to be

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Someone didn’t read the post

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Flared countless r60s even with afterburner on f4e. And seen tons of my 9ls get flared even in rear aspect launches at close range. 1-2 flare pops and they are gone. They are just as useless as they always were.

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Ive seen the same. A few R60Ms ignoring flares

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This is just server hiccups due to strain. Nothing was changed really.

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Use r73

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It’s out of control. Dozens of flares out no after burner and it ignores all flares.

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Judging from the datamines, there has not been any changes to the r60.

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Yeah I gave up on the event really fast because the only things I could fly were the A-10 and such, and those get absolutely bullied by everything

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R60M seems to be better than I remember it. Don’t play russian airframes that often. They seem to generate more kills than AIM-9L imho. If you’re close they seem to ignore flares…dunno its strange. When I fly this Mig-23 from he event, I can sometimes get 3-4 kills per sortie. Thats alot more than I get in a Phantom…there I mainly make my kills using the gun in headons. Cause Sparrows won’t work and AIM-9L gets defeated by a single flare.

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AIM9L’s feel like AIM9B’s these days. They barely work and have negative flare resistance haha.

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Doesn’t help that a lot more aircraft have LCMs which just make 9Ls even less effective than before

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The R-60M’s last change was a nerf to its flare resistance over 4 years ago.

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They certainly feels a bit stronger in the event. I’m thinking it’s something with the larger servers which causes issues with missile calculations such as seeker polling rate.

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Especially the 9L

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Sometimes, R60 knows where it is.

90% of the times, it don’t.

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I’ve noticed this and to some extent with 9L’s too. R60’s see to be a little harder to flare than usual, as normally they would go right for flares no matter what.

Actually kind of nice, as the R60M’s haven’t really been great for a long time and mainly just a missile you use for unaware players.