The T20 does not deserve a 6.0 BR

Have you people ever considered, that the BR increase may not be game related, but economy related? That this is “premium obsolescense”?

This premium is out for a long time, it has been handed out for warbonds at least twice, everyone and his dog should have it by now. In the past, the strategy was to slowly erode the SL bonus of such vehicles until they reach the free tree level. At one point in time my british premium Archilles was actually nerfed below free tree Achilles. This didn’t go well with the real money buyers, so Gaijin later de-nerfed premiums back to their elevated income. Then they started to slowly push some of them up in BR to the border of uselessness.

I can’t judge which is the case here, but I would always at least consider this as a potential motive.

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Could you elaborate?

Do you know that panthers have very bad reverse and slow steering when driving back? This should not be this way. Panther’s steering mechanism also worked as multiplicator when reverse was used. So it should have better back turn rate and second reverse gear with using of multiplicator with less torque but more speed.

I am aware that the Panther has very bad reverse speed. However I have never heard of this “multiplicator” and so far cannot find any information on it.

When it comes to steering, I feel like that is much more likely to be due to the fact that WarThunder does not model differentials, where one track slows down and the other speeds up. Perhaps that is what you are talking about.

However, differentials cannot magically speed up both tracks, to my knowledge. They work by specifically diverting the energy that would go from one track to the other.

It wasn’t implemented directly but mechanism worked as it.

It’s on russian sorry

Why though? 🤔

Doesn’t sound like the most complex thing to implement.
When one track is destroyed, you can still move the other so why can’t one track slow down in a turn?

I don’t know, not exactly a Gaijin employee.

Although it does seem that Gaijin is slowly working towards differentials and regenerative steering. If you look at the datamine image I posted, you’ll notice there’s a “SteerType” value. This didn’t exist a couple months ago.

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Ah. I was also wondering about that :)
Whether there were other steering types implemented.

Well, I guess it will a slow and painfull process of implementation.
Like realShatter and custom load-outs.

A few changes every patch, even though it seems that realShatter was kinda forgotten.

In last patch something was did with airplane damage.

Well, right now the Challenger Black Night shows “Twin transmission” on the “steerType”.
image

It seems to be so far identical to “clutch brake” (and it is also wrong in the case of the BN), but it does show that Gaijin is slowly working on stuff.

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Yeah something that just affected all guns that already had realShatter implemented.

I’m talking about how half the guns still don’t have realShatter and that’s for half a year now.

Panther doesn’t have differential. It has another complicated steering mechanism

I’m going to run some acceleration tests on the T20 before it is buffed.

After the buff is implemented, I will test it again and post the results here.

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Also check RPM on reverse gear. Some time ago it was bugged and was only 600 rpm

It is out now, apparently.

Screenshot_20231115-082520_Chrome

I personally cannot test it right now as I am in my university having classes. But will do when I get home.

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WT should be your number one priority in life 😏

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Not bad after the changes.

Finally have access to my computer, so I have ran some tests. I have video and written test results.

https://streamable.com/qbgu7e

Written test results

Time to reach speed:

Old New
5 0.58 0.33
10 1.08 0.91
15 2.08 1.66
20 3.41 2.54
25 4.75 3.99
30 7.13 5.86
35 11.22 8.25
40 15.13 10.70
45 19.09 15.13
50 23.20 19.24
55 27.70 23.75
56 28.70 24.78

Time difference between speeds:

pre buffed
0-5 0.58 0.33
5-10 0.50 0.58
10-15 1.00 0.75
15-20 1.33 0.88
20-25 1.34 1.45
25-30 2.38 1.87
30-35 4.09 2.39
35-40 3.91 2.45
40-45 3.96 4.43
45-50 4.11 4.11
50-55 4.50 4.51
55-56 1.00 1.03

There’s a slight bump from 40 to 45 km/h due to the gear switch to 6th gear, where the tank loses speed due to sudden RPM change. After going into 6th gear, the acceleration is identical as it’s effectively an identical gear to the 3rd gear of the old transmission. The real difference is from 25 to 40 km/h.

Imitation of early torquematic defects has gone

I honestly have no idea why the T20 is 6.0 instead of 5.7. It has good reverse speed and that’s really about it. Plays a lot like a worse walker bulldog.