-1, Japan already has its own options for sub trees, Poland also makes absolutely no sense.
HELL no
If we were to allow subtree simply because the host and sub-tree country has cordial relationship without any military or cultural relationship to back it up, then I guess we can just add Brazilian vehicles to Japan or Turkish vehicle to China simply because they have a long-lasting diplomatic relations. This is like opening a huge can of worms that I would rather prefer leave that untouched. -1
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That was a really interesting read about Polish and Japanese relationships, thanks for sharing.
I would say +1 for the concept but -1 for Japan, that’s a real can of worms.
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There is no precedent of cooperation against common enemy = subtree. And to go on a similar note Poland declared war on Japan in ww2 (it would be the first subtree to be at war with the main during ww2). One Polish pilot in the Flying Tigers squadron would shoot down two Japanese planes.
Albeit the Polish declaration of war was only to stay loyal to the allies and cooperated with Japan against the soviets in exchange for Japanese passports for epsionage (on Germany)
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Yes to it being added to the game, but NO for Japan. Given the possible future Thai and other SEA additions which have been hinted at, they’d be a much better addition to the Japanese helicopter tree than Poland. That said, I would like to be able to play these Polish helicopters, especially since I suggested the Mi-2URP-G. So, in effect, ~1.
Average Japanese subtrees suggestion, honestly. Loosely put: find any random nation with relations other than hostile to Japan. It has to be in the same half of the globe as Japan is in so people living on the other half might think they have something in common (muh both Asian) (this one violated in this suggestion). Then proceed to find the every single obscure link to Japan that country has.
Bonus points for using the Japanese occupation of said nation as a justification for the subtrees.
You’d wonder why these people aren’t content with domestic vehicles…
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You are wrong. On December 8, 1941, the Japanese carried out an armed invasion of Thailand. During the fighting, both sides suffered losses. Currently, Thailand is already part of Japan. No shots were fired in the Japanese-Polish war, so there was a war but no fighting.
It’s not that deep bro, it’s just a concept for a suggestion. It’s not like @Grzegames is a dev, so there is no reason to treat another player with hostility.
I think you will find equal vehemence towards Vietnam being included as a subtree in China
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Military intelligence is part of the army. Intelligence cooperation means military cooperation. So there are military connections
I would rather have a South Korean subtree and the consequences of stating that opinion than a Polish subtree that seems hella outta place
However, the Koreans will add, if memory serves, only helicopters that are already in the game (AH-1 cobra, AH-64, UH-1 and OH-6). Moreover, it is not the subject of this suggestion to consider what is a better choice for Japan.
The topic of this suggestion is support for Japanese helicopters, not whether it is a good choice for a subtree for Japan.
-1 There could be a Polish helicopter subtree, but it is not appropriate for Japan.
However long the relationship between Poland and Japan may be, most of them are very general one that can be made between any two countries and has no political or military significance.
It’s like no one is saying that Italy must get British and French vehicles, which were part of Rome. And Poland-Japan relationship is far less than this.
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seriously? in last time I saw su-27 for japan suggestion and now the polish subtree?? ‘japan needs something’ does not mean that it can steal anything which looks good. if poland used japanese vehicles or japanese technology it would’ve make sence but for sure they did not.
japan is getting thailand subtree so we all gotta satisfy with it.
I would love to see a Polish sub-tree, but I believe the choice to be added in Japan is a bit odd. I would rather proceed to add them for Germany instead, since this feels like a better choice and we already have a Polish presence in their tree (like the Leopard 2PL and Lim-5P - sold to GDR but produced in Poland).
This would also provide an opportunity for Polish Air Force and the Army to supplement the German Tech Tree and during the Cold War and afterwards there have been supply relationships between Poland and Eastern Germany (GDR), continuing with Germany after reunification as far as I know (i.e. Poland sold Mi-2 helicopters to GDR), so it would make more sense.
As for Japan, I would go instead with countries like South Korea or Indonesia. Similar to Poland and Germany, they had a more bloody relationship during WW2, but later on their socio-political relationships improved and I would see them a better fit for a Japanese sub-tree.
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-1.
Just because something can be suggested does not mean it should be.
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This is not a statement about this particular player, which should have been obvious. It is a statement about a specific subsection of the War Thunder forums Japanese community.
Would probably go to Germany if anything, as they already have the Leopard 2PL
*and need more helicopters
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You described his suggestion as “average Japanese subtrees suggestion”