The su-39 situation is crazy

It also needs its thermal sight pod.

Historical accuracy
i also forgot to mention the Khod FLIR pod

HERE WE GO AGAIN... (NOOTNOOT)
i have already unlocked Maus and Tiger II, so sure put some historical accuracy in WT and let’s see what happens.

it would be like giving AIM-7Ms to the A-10, why tf would that be a good idea?

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I’m not advocating for historical BR’s, i’m advocating for making vehicles accurate, two completely different things

one or the other, both are horrible things.
if u give the Su-39 R-27ER/R-77 that would make it go far higher, at least 12.0/12.3 (with R-77 that would be 13.0), u want a subsonic fat attacker to face F-15A and Su-30MKK?

It would require decompression but i want to see this plane be finally given it’s entire range of capabilities

sure i also want F/A-18E to get AIM-9X and my Su-30SM2 to get it’s respective R-77M1 and R-74M, but that would be too much, just like giving a goddamn ATTACKER air superiority capabilities.

again, would it be a good idea to give AIM-7Ms or AIM-120s to the A-10? surely not, same with this thing.

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That would not be possible due to not being accurate tho

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i’m not talking about accuracy atp, would it be or not?

i don’t think giving it it’s complement of SARH and IR missiles and an arguably meh ARH would be too much

Yeah lets ruin something good for ‘historical accuracy’. Warthunder is a war game firstly, not a sim, maybe go back to dcs.

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Pretty good for CAS in GRB for my part but suck in AirRB

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It’s alright if you make use of vikhrs, altough i’ve never used them on aircraft before

so u don’t see wrong to have a subsonic (not even transonic like AV-8B Plus) attacker with bad maneuverability and no-HMD at 12.0/13.0 facing way better aircrafts? if it already struggles to keep up a dogfight with a real fighter wtf do u think it will do against a F-15E or a Su-30?

it’s like making a Swordfish Mk I and an A6M Zero have fight.

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it’s a premium that already has all it’s mods unlocked, if u use it for ARB u’re very stupid, and the one who made this topic probably uses it for ARB.

i prefer the Su-24M and MiG-27K for CAS at the same br

the vikhr launch zone makes that a lot harder than it seems to be

i did say it would require decompression

brother chill this is a normal conversation, I respect you as a brother, as a mate, No need for that kind of language.

also the Su-39 is multi role fighter since its equipped with air to air missiles.

DCS’s weapons and sensor modeling is genuinely horrible, there are like 5 different API’s for ARH missiles and not one of them is representative of an ARH missile’s capabilities, some don’t have IOG, some don’t have datalink etc, and the radars and IRST’s are worse than in war thunder

i’m pretty sure decompression wouldn’t be able of saving this brick if it gets what u’re asking for.

at least it has proxy fuze, u know?

then why tf would u want the Su-39 to get all that if u prefer other attackers over this one?
it’s absolute nonsense.

It won’t bring profit, Su-39 isn’t a everyday ZTZ-96B that gets fixed to their real life counterpart in less than a week of implementation.

It can use active radar homing missiles with proper tools (e.g., Kopyo-25 radar pod) but I doubt that Gaijin will ever implement to the Su-39, it’s a gimmick vehicle, it’s not good but not useless at all. While A-10A and A-10C will have better guns, missiles and better performance at lower speeds, Su-39 excels at top speed and acceleration, you might find 9K121 useful but I usually bring four gun pods and missiles in a effort to saturate enemy and here and there launch a missile.

Do I think it should have advanced air-to-air missiles? Yes, historical accuracy please. Will it benefit from this? Yes, would improve the experience with this airplane in air battles. But don’t expect everything being flowers and sunshine, it will have its battle rating increased nonetheless, given that the Kopyo-25 radar pod isn’t affected by ground clutter, I don’t think it will last too much lower than battle rating 11.7 even with the most basic guided missile it was ever equipped on in real life.

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I sincerly hope Gaijin can balance vehicles based on their entirety of weaponry available, I think would decompress more and make the whole battle rating more flexible for new implementations, but I don’t think it will ever happen.