The Su-30SM should not have received the Kh-38MT

They fly at low altitudes too. Pretty hard to intercept. As for jsow, b is a non starter literally a column deleter.

None of these missiles would be necessarily better than russia, russia gets 6. At most f15e would get 2 of each of the missiles i listed(dont know about aargm). Though taken singularly those missiles would be more effective, like they choose to give us the agm130 which is the worst they could.

the AGM-84E would’ve been a better option. I think the Fa-18 can carry 4. Someone mentioned it can be mounted on a dual adapter pylon (forgot the term).

I still think even with that, it won’t bring it anywhere near russia’s cas dominance in game unless we get new mechanics

oh well, gaijin needa fix more of their shit

Our problem is that the US and other NATO countries have abandoned the unified mobile air defense system. And switched to an air defense system that consists of 3-5 vehicles. Unfortunately, this cannot be implemented in the game, we do not have a separate radar and substation and there is no AWACS, but the developers are simply not trying to make a compromise, they simply gave the US an ancient air defense system from the 70s and now they are sending 2019 aircraft against it.

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They’ve stated that they are working on multivehicle AAs.

But carry on.

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Adats would be good ingame if it was well implemented, it isnt.

KH 38 was a mistake and it should be removed or limited.

AGM-65 and HAMR are also probelmatic

But none as egerious as 6 KH-38s coming at you at mach 2.0

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SU in question was ZERUS, the first place of enemy team, I killed him 3 times, first he spawned in a 2s25, because of his assist and a kill he spawned a SU34, obliterated half of my team, I severe damaged him (so basically I killed him 4 times, but gaijin), he made it to airfield, came back and killed another 3 more, I shoot him down and he just came in another SU hahahahaha, I destroy him again and the match ends. All the time I had to climb, dive and maneuver to shoot my missiles cause he got a pantsir on his side, while he just can just send 6 big boom-booms to my team (there was a point when my team had 3 AA and they werent capable of shootin him down lol)


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Having fun, right?

I was laughing with my team complaints, I mean, what else can they do? what else can I do? Kh38 is just a nonsense hahahaha.

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In battles on the top, I just collect points on the F-15C with AIM-120, because it is the only salvation. It seems to me that these Su are very cheap in terms of points, I watched the replay and the guy did a couple of reconnaissances and one frag and took himself an SU-30 at the beginning of the battle.

gaijin one question how many time u need to balanc this planes in ground battle??? is eniught 2 plane to obliratye all team is really balanced… russia is get best and best cas but where is better spaas for other nations ???..

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No tech tree has SPAA capable of dealing with IR AGM carriers currently, that’s the issue.

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Yes this is my issue with people defending the Russian Bias. AGM65s are slow and easily shot down by a Pantsir. KH38S go mach 2 and only the ITO on allied teams have a slight chance. Its annoying and broken but people refuse the propaganda

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Just introduce mixed battle in ground RB and all of this nation bias problem would be gone, but ofc they wouldn’t do that.

Well. Also give kh-38mt to everyone could be good option. Would be funny to see people crying about their own weapon.

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30SM doesn’t need 38MTs at 13.0. Other planes can perform CAS duties just fine.

Bro exactly!! Why is that so hard to understand 😂😂

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People love to argue for the sake of arguing.

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“Meanwhile, the ‘dive’ mode programmed into the inertial navigation units of the Kh-38 ML/MT/MA/MK missiles provides for a steep descent from altitudes of 18 to 12.5 km at angles of up to 80 degrees. Consequently, the fire control systems of short- and medium-range surface-to-air missile systems such as IRIS-T SLM and NASAMS will have a very limited time window to intercept these tactical missiles before they enter the ‘dead zones’ of radar detection and target acquisition systems. This indicates that the crews of the Su-34NVO, Su-30SM1/2, and Su-35S enjoy a wide maneuvering window for the deployment of this type of multi-role tactical missile.” source: Модульный «козырь» ВКС России. На что способна многоцелевая ракета Х-38 | Военное дело
I saw it in other sources but I don’t remember where and I’m too lazy to look for where I saw it