The Su-30MKK and Su-30MK2 AMV should be moved up to 13.7

not even.
playing rn and it hell.

gonna try to record some

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They all must go up in BR.

J-11A and J-11B are no exception, they are both overperforming at the expense of others:

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Alright sure, j11b can go up. I didn’t see global stats before this, was just basing it off my experience j11b playing cause it’s worse than j11a and su27sm.

Losing out on r27er and et is such a big thing

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Glad you’re being reasonable.

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PL-12s are working fine for me

I didn’t realize the global stats were that good lol.
Shi looks likes bmpt type stats

i will try to record some, give me some time

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cant say the same about the fullback lol
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Honestly I don’t get why they uptiered it from 13.3, it’s so fat and heavy

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Can’t use global stats reliably all the time, F15JM has the best stats at 13.7 even though J11B is better when looking at its radar and missile count. This doesn’t mean f15jm should go to 14.0 while j11B can go to 14.0.

I only looked at @kizvy all-time stats because he asked me to.

The stats on J-11’s are January 2026.

Yeah and in janurary f15jm performed better than j11 even though its worse than the j11. Better to argue about the jets capabilities than looking at global stats and even player stats

are your subjective opinion.

The stats are the objective measure of perfomance in the game delivered to you on monthly basis so that you can exclude the irrelevant data from prior metas while observing the trends.

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But you cannot exclude the vehicle characteristics just like that. It can lead to vehicle being severely undertiered because its played mostly by sub 80 IQ flesh golems.

Believe it or not that is also reflected in the stats:

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These two should be close in perfomance: one has better FM, the other gets 2 extra R-27ER’s. Alas “the flesh golems” can’t make use of the extra missiles.

For me, Su-30MKK only increase battle rating to 13.7 (Air battle mode) because guided Air-to-Air armament both russian & chinese, and better the Venezuelan Su-30MK2

But in this specific instance you are comparing two relatively different planes.

Su-33 being squadron means its much more accesible than TT Su-27, which is indicated by no. of games played.

More accesible = more people get to play it = worse average stats

Lol yeah I had the MBT 70 sitting at 4300 cause I got 35 kills in two games in january, at that point it made it look OP af, while in reality i just got lucky two games with positioning.

No idea why tehy wouldn’t use all time stats.

All time stats dont properly reflect how meta developed over time.

All time stats for MBT-70/Kpz70 include time it was top dog, which is no longer case, and they also include games played with stronger sabot.

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nvm they work fine, its just the high * launch while notching sometime doesnt work for me.

also bvr beyond 30km wont work for me.