The Su-30MKK and Su-30MK2 AMV should be moved up to 13.7

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The Su-30MKK and Su-30MK2 AMV should be moved up to 13.7, since they have more countermeasures than the F-16ADF and the MiG-29, and they can carry more than double their missiles. Not to mention that it is basically a Su-27SM, but you can get it at a lower BR by paying for it.

I know BR is adjusted based on performance, but even then it could drop to 13.0 because new players’ statistics are terrible, with an average KD of around 0.7 at best, while more experienced players can reach a KD of about 2.1.

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They have same amount of missile as all other 13.3

Only has more ir missile who you should know how to pre flare and dodge it if you are in these br.

You forgot tge wieght and the better engine the su27sm get.

And the amount of missile.

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Which 13.3 has same missile payload?

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The F-16ADF and the MiG-29 can carry a maximum of 6 missiles, while the Su-30 can carry 10 missiles, 6 ARH and 4 IR.

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this should help better understand what i said.

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So your argument is that it has same amount of ARH missiles as other 13.3 and IRs dont count because you should know how to defeat them, did i get that right?

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yes

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Well ARHs dont count then since you should know how to properly chaff and notch at this BR :^)

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devs already said that they do not want to change their BRs, no use in arguing

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how doesnt matter when the br itself is for fox3 ?

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Logically.

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there is still a chance for mkk to go 13.7 bcz pl12

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well logically.

you would know that 70% of the gameplay is about fox 3. and the rest is ir missile gameplay.

other br who are based on both of them is 12.0 to 13.0

exactly why 9.13 moved up

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You also forget that the R-73 is one of the missiles with the highest G-load in the game and it also has IRCCM.

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the most easy to flare also

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Facts, move all flankers up 1 br.
J-11/27/33 to 13.3, su-30mkk/mk2/11a to 13.7, su-27sm to 14.0.
Keep j11b where it is

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No new missiles, so devs will keep su30mkk and mk2 at 13.3. They legit said they dont want to change the br

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So IR missiles matter in 30%cases, but i thought you said they dont count since they can be defeated?

But what stops us from applying same logic to ARHs, ie. They can be defeated so they shouldnt count? :^)

(Hint - i am mocking your argument)

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well they better remove pl12. can keep pl8b

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