The Su-30MKK and Su-30MK2 AMV should be moved up to 13.7

Would be cool, but I think the power of it would be missed on developers. They’d just see one comment and think they did a good job.

Worth a shot, try to arrange it. I don’t think everyone is angry enough to commit though.

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yeah its got multiple things of armor it depends where you shoot its a occislating turret multiple plates of armor increases volumetric chances

against something like the T32 7.7 its kinda op as its basically the american SOUMA SM which is op at 7.7

Hopefully they fuck up bad enough for the next major update to get even more people angry

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Player will turn mad soon, and what happens last time? Boom R on steam… this is gonna be wild

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T32e1 should probably be 7.3. no?

the JF-17 does not have sparrows

we just have to keep pushing back, eventually they’ll have to reciprocate

They are metaphoric

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It’s a joke since the PL-12s were nerfed and can be outrolled like sparrows. You don’t even need a UFO flight model, a MiG-21, flanker, Mig-17, or a Mig-19 can all do it.

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oh shit, really? lmao

china was already an extremely unappealing nation due to its lack of good or unique aircraft outside of like two for me but now that PL-12s are just active radar sparrows i’m going to completely give up on that.

the only thing that makes it grindable for me in the first place is the assortment of japanese and american vehicles in the lower ranks

How is the Kfir going to 13.3 with the flankers?

Kfir is great but only has a better radar and thats it.

Not playing the BR until the flankers are moved is all thats left. 12.3- 13.0 has nothing id even class as good now the kfir has been nerfed. 6x fakour is also grim AF. Sooner of kept it at 13.0 with 4 as now even 14.3s get their early game funked

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yeah kfir change is also ridicioulus, the plane is already mediocre at 13.0 and under normal circumstances i’d say move it to 12.7 if not for the fact that it has FOX3s.

they’re screwing things up for no reason. won’t be touching air RB above 9.0 until they fix the BRs again.

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Well, say thanks to sweatlords that keep it’s KD around 1.5 or more for several months

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isn’t 1.5KD perfectly average for sentient players?

just because the KD isn’t under 1.0, doesn’t mean the plane needs an uptier.

as i always say, balance based on vehicle capability, not player statistics. the kfir is fine at 13.0 and will get dogwalked at 13.3

For individual players, maybe. But globally “balanced” vehicles usually hang around 0.7-0.8. Anything that is above 1.0 globally can be seen as overperforming to some extent. At least in Gaijin eyes, they balance vehicles around player stats, not Vehicle capabilities

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You can say it all you want, won’t change the way Gaijin does it. And they do it exactly opposite.

hmmmm… okay then, strange.

in any case, won’t be using the kfir once the changes deploy.

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infact, i won’t play above 9.0 in air realistic at all, since gaijin is so set on ruining the entire game after it was delicately balanced even on the verge breaking when moving 1 vehicle, starting with when the F-15s got moved down.

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have you seen the fucking moronic response that was posted a few hours ago under the BR change thread about the Su-30s? they’re saying they won’t mvoe it up because “it’s fine where it is” (it isn’t) and that they’re “gonna monitor it” (they won’t)

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