The statement that the BUK-M3 is the weakest anti-aircraft system at 12.7 is incorrect

Well that would make Gaijins reasoning for the new Pantsir even more ridiculous

Exactly! Also one thing that will also probably also happen is the new Pantsir is gonna be bringing BUKs numbers even lower thus Gaijin can say “Oh look it doesnt perform well at all, we need to add something new” and wanna bet that will happen? LOL

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Imagine, It is allready told him only way how buk manages to kill helo, and he still doesnt understand how, but bias is real.

Oh well…

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imo the buk is good, MY main reason for its bad preformance it is becasue its its not reliable, the missiles have their mind of their own, and the main radar just won’t detect anything sometimes.

Well sorry to disappoint, last time I played ussr was on that Decoration , about week ago.
But what ever when you cant hear the thruth about your glorified BUK , that is is actually dogwater compared to Nato 12.7AA’s

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it only becomes a bad idea if gaijins internal data is somehow so far from the deviating metric statshark uses, which shocker it shouldnt be as statshark polls the public API every month

So unless the accounts that are being polled, are either over performing above the average or underperforming then statshark stats shouldnt be that far from the factual truth.

there would have to be an insane discrepancy between both data pools for that to be the case which mathematically with how many accounts we are talking here would put that in the realm of nearly impossible when we are talking about millions of accounts and data sets.

i think hq-11 should also be thrown on that list, it’s in the same boat as the spyder rlly

But that’s not the case. Although I know the HQ-11 has many issues—such as having only half the ammunition of other 12.7 SAMs—its K/R ratio still ranks fourth among 12.7 SAMs, proving that its current capabilities are sufficient to handle the present battlefield environment.

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And then they buffed it back to better performance than before the nerfs, while leaving others to their gimped state…

This is not exclusive to the BUK as a TADS SAM. The only TADS reasonably capable to defend itself at relatively close ranges is the american CLAWS and NASAMS w/AIM-9Xs.

No, I’m saying Gaijin has data that Statshark simply can’t get, like if the BUK is being killed more by CAS or Tanks pushing into spawn, Average K/D of the people playing it, average survival time, how many missiles it has to shoot to get a hit etc etc.
Now whether or not Gaijin is actually using those statistics is a different issue.

That might be because the performance of the missile of a sam system and the overall performance of the system are 2 completely different things?

You can put the most insane missile that will ever exist on a sam system thats trying to find targets and guide missiles with the shilkas radar and make it impossible to hide and overall it will still be bad af.
If the radar aquires targets when its already too late, loses targets and produces ghost targets en masse, the best missile wont help with shooting down targets that have already dipped down again or went defensive when your radar first sees them. and then youd still need to turn the launchers and hope theres nothing in the way. and dont even get me started with using the SUK to shoot down ordinance.
Iris-t, samp-t and nasams are way better sam systems in the current meta than the buk. What im just wondering about is why it is necessary that russia outshines or is at least on par at every vehicle class in game. Having a bit worse spaa at least negates that somehow. (well if only the pantsir wouldnt still be one of the best spaas and you get two of them each match for free, with the upcoming tracked pantsir u get 3). which is funny because theres nations that dont get access to a single usable spaa. hello japan and israel.

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Stats such as just raw k/d is such a bad method of evaluating capabilities tho

its not really a different issue, Gajing has kinda showed that they are not skilled at data analysis

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I’m 50/50 about it, though I will say I am excited to see the Pantsir-SM as it’s one I’ve been looking forward to personally.

it’s not

kinda is, both are single system aio, with low missile count, and are giant vehicles.

only thing the hq has over spyder is the orientation phase but then they have smokeless python to deal with close in multipathing targets

you never played SPYDER, it’s much more worse. PYTHON 5 will not hit anything near ground since its seeker has only 80° off bore sight and the radar has no neg angle searching

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Spider getting I derby er with double the range this update so it won’t be so bad now

it would be yes, but if they then separated that raw k/d value based on an average win rate of accounts and separated those accounts into tiers like 30-40% w/r and 45-55% w/r accounts and higher w/r accounts, irrespective of the vehicle in question win rates you could then to a degree define a skill bracket and determine if higher skilled players are in fact obtaining a higher k/d or if the vehicle is truly bad.

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