I would honestly say our best bet of getting our hull armour changes is to wait for the Abrams discussion to open up this week and talk to the moderator directly instead of just throwing our evidence at people who are hired to press the “not enough info” button
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We had a few really good reports put together that we could use again to see if we can come to a compromise with the higher ups so long as we keep it somewhat organized
I don’t know about the “American trolls” your referencing. I usually see a lot of off topic comments about how insert other nation doesn’t get something so asking for a historical buff to an American vehicle shouldn’t get it and trying to derail the thread kind of like your doing.
Oddly enough despite the fact that war thunder supposedly uses The lanz Odermatt system, the system states that the m829 should have an approximate penetration of 680-720mm of RHA. Interesting isn’t it?
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Lmao no, I read it all and the 50 other ones, nothing in them proves where the improved armor is, what it’s for, how much it was improved, and what threats it was improved for other than IED’s
It sure is, but that’s a wiki article so I don’t trust it
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im pretty sure it has been fitted on the abrams that same company has already been requested to fill out a 2nd order and judging by what the director at arka said the army was satisfied with its tested tho its not in service so i doubt gaijin will accept that its been used
this is what the lws system looks like and it is the same system as the one used on the rosy+lws that was done in 2018 but this tank in the image isnt a sep 3 so its hard to find out when this picture was taken
Just in case they upload the Abrams post while I’m at work, I pre-cooked two comment templates I will be copy-pasting to save time (modified/adjusted if needed) based on two potential kinds of post;
If Gaijin admits that they are doing this “for balance”:
I supported and enjoyed War Thunder under the premise that vehicles were digital replicas of their real life counterparts, “carefully crafted from historical and surviving sources” and, in modern classified service vehicles’ case, “(…) modelled based on available open information (…), calculated based on publicly available data.”
Instead, now vehicles are straight up artificially altered “for balance reasons”, disregarding the existing balance measures that were supposedly put in place to avoid ravaging vehicles beyond reality.
This is not the game I loved and supported for 12 years.
If Gaijin keeps pushing the “not enough info” claims:
I supported and enjoyed War Thunder under the premise that vehicles were digital replicas of their real life counterparts, “carefully crafted from historical and surviving sources” and, in modern classified service vehicles’ case, “(…) modelled based on available open information (…), calculated based on publicly available data.”
Instead, you now refuse to abide by the exact modelling and implementation policies which you have been claiming to work with for five years, claiming that “there’s not enough information” (on a classified service vehicle) just because there are no official, legally available specifics. What happened to “modelling and calculating them based on publicly available data”?
When no such information exists, a well calculated vehicle will always be better than a not-calculated-at-all one, and the developers used to agree with this… until now, apparently.
This is not the game I loved and supported for 12 years.
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For Professional 500,000 GE Tournament “BALANCE”
I guess, since they also can create golden eagle so pretty much they can make everything up.
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“Deleted for misinformation, you’ve been banned for three days for inappropriate comments.”
-A certain rock mod
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Day 2: Still waiting for the devs to realize that 5 mm of structural steel doesn’t weigh 5 tons [^88]. Implement the correct SEPv3 chassis armor density.
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crazy that they had the audacity to say this
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Hey man, you know what they say: Russian APFSDS melts 5mm steel beams
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Define now.
Things have been artificially altered for balance for literal years.
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incredibly ironical since if i follow their own modus-operandi i can say the T90M has the armor of the T72A their armor composite array upgrade has no visual proof if not internally no?
(i know it is not but makes me laugh)
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are they serious? they gave them picture proof that the type10 doesn’t have a turret basket and they say this? alright…
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i know what you mean but i wanna humbly give you another point of thought Motorola, they are adding more and more modern vehicles going more and more into the ones that are straight up 99% classified
here we have the example of the SepV3 but lemme give you a more “in home” example, look the Mig29KR they decided to add this very modern version of the Mig29 skipping totally the K and artificially (and disgustingly) nerf it to be practically an SMT with extra pylons
what i’m saying is that gaijin should think VERY well into how to approach this kind of vehicles, and taking a modern jet/tank and artifically nerfing it to a lower standard is straight up insulting to the vehicle, or what it rapresents (case of the SepV3 being pinacle of tank design of the US)
i agree with you that the balance of the game has long been thrown out of the window, but now they are doing this to vehicles that you cannot even bug report such of this mess, see the problem?
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Can you give the link of the report?
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Nvm, found it
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