The standards to revise M1A2 SEPv3's armor NEED to be revised and calibrated

[RoboStudls]

I did post a bug report on the physical changes of the SEPv3 hull and they actually accepted it, wonder if they will actually change it and in the meantime realise something aint right

[An_Pigeon]

@SPANISH_AVENGER

miserable glass 355mm KE to be improved into somewhat-workable 600-ish mm KE, then there’s suddenly a big drama.

Love how this community always ends as Ger V Rus V USA and all the minor nations just cry in the backround.

@Jεcka

at no point did I say or insinuate there needs to be a drama because US players want a certain thing. Ya need to chill out with the victim complex, you seem to always default to it whenever you’re not 100% right.

Imagine we all banded together and got what all of us want.

@RoboStudls-psn

Yeah and the reason provided so so lackluster and plain wrong, im so dissapointed with gaijin right now

So the 14 page report (when I read it), never mind the sources in it whihc are hundreds of pages if not thosuands combined has been panned already??
there’s no fking way they read that or even considered it.

[Jεcka]

@An Pigeon

Imagine we all banded together and got what all of us want.

You drive a hard bargain, I raise and give you 50 peanuts on top. Tho would be amazing, will never happen tho because factionalism runs rampart in the WT community lol. It’s worse than Rust clans.

[An_Pigeon]

@Jεcka

. If you’re getting salty over that, it’s you that’s the problem.

Eh you could of approached it better.

@SPANISH_AVENGER

Specially when a couple of days ago you were calling me “an idiot”, which of course adds up as context for the unnecesary rudeness, so it’s unfair that you describe this as “a me problem of getting salty over being asked to be factual”.

Try stay on topic guys.

As far as we know they’ve completely rejected the bug report? or am I wrong here?

• as well as that they are now going against what they said in 2021.
• there is no way they have read that report in such a short time and given in any due considerations.
• They are now getting us once again to bicker over who has it worst rather than focus on the bigger picture of they have shafted almost every single tree this patch bar one.

You two wanna argue, do it in private, we can’t afford to lose any more threads or in fact coherent forum members to their bans, as they are ham handedly banning a lot of people for the smallest of things.

[tripod2008]

@An Pigeon

there is no way they have read that report in such a short time and given in any due considerations

This is absolutely something that could be brought up when the impending devblog goes live.

[An_Pigeon]

@tripod2008

This is absolutely something that could be brought up when the impending devblog goes live.

it’s absolutely something which should & must be brought up man It took me long enough to read the original pages of the draft, not including all the sources they highlighted on it.

@RoboStudls-psn

botted right now im not sure if theres anyway to get through to them left even if you left a bad review it will get drowned in the bot postive ones

Steams got a system for that, if they see it they’ll flag “fake” reviews aka reviews which actualyl dont review it at all and just say stuff like “games awesome” etc etc

[RoboStudls]

Yeah theres so many reviews that are just level 1 steam accounts saying “is awesome” “good”

[An_Pigeon]

@MotorolaCRO

Happens with hormo

Again not the place mate, the thread will end up locked or some BS

@RoboStudls-psn

Yeah theres so many reviews that are just level 1 steam accounts saying “is awesome” “good”

Then there’s your answer.

[Etheon43]

I’m not sure how or why this thread just talked itself in circles when it’s a simple fact that Gaijin made up numbers to improve the turret armor on the Sep V3. They then turn around and claim they can’t update the hill armor by even 10mm without hard evidence of exact figures.

If none of the documents on the planet give you the exact hull armor thickness, then there also isn’t any showing the turret armor improvements either.

Even if you buffed the Abrams LFP to 600+ mm of KE protection, I’m still going to aim at the massive turret ring. Even if it gets volumetric, it will never stop MBT level shells. I’m all for accuracy as well but if you think thickening the LFP will make the Abrams invincible you are mistaken.

[skittiee]

Still, they model in the weight of the armor, but not the armor? they make the abrams slower without any up sides.

[_Renzo]

@Jεcka

What? The only thing I said here was “X is also incorrect, you’re wrong”, at no point did I say or insinuate there needs to be a drama because US players want a certain thing.

There was another Leopard main who got in here a couple of times and made it seem like US player demands were unreasonable. However you shouldn’t be getting flak for that.

That guy only really showed up in force shortly after your DM53 bug report got shot down by the bug report team (which I find a stupid decision btw), so I guess the guy was just salty over that.

[An_Pigeon]

@Jεcka

Likely requirements for a future armor upgrade, like say, M1A2s HAP-2 or SEPv1s HAP-3, a 25% increase over HAP-1 would’ve been huge (600mm*1.25 - > 750mm; this is more than the current SEPv3 had in WT at +/- 30 arc if I remember correctly)

I see, so that means it shoudl by all means have an armour upgrade xD we just don’t get one.

@MotorolaCRO

Hormonal problems aren’t just female things, you bringing up misogyny is hilarious.

if one states they are a woman then you pipe up with that the use of language does dictate it towards misogyny.

Now please stop before we lose the thread.

@MotorolaCRO

ou being a female makes no difference to the conversation.
You’re often showing your passive aggressive nature while sometimes being outright rude to people that haven’t really deserved that.

Their announcement of it prior to your comment makes a difference to the conversation.

That’s not debatable mate.

@MotorolaCRO

I know it’s always the easiest to hide behind things like misogyny when someone calls you out for being obnoxious without a reason. Taking accountability is hard for some.

Can call them an aggressive so and so without mentioning hormones. Which what you said in western culture is a common trop to say to women.

So just stop while your ahead and take it to DMs and leave the thread alone.

[H_ngma]

@An Pigeon

You ever see what happened to legwolf with the British ERA protection levels for STANAG and stuff like that?
dude literally proved it with sources and calculus etc and they just denied it xD

Absolute classic at this point tbh. Relikt buff without any source whatsoever but Nato buffs need to be written by Charles de gaulle himself with Ink made from the blood of Eisenhower on a paper made from Churchills skin at this point.

@An Pigeon

LMURs should be as their equals.

And the MI28NM shouldnt get 8 of them without any source, picture or evidence ever showing more than 4.

@An Pigeon

They just don’t want to balance it properly.

For sure, i just wish they were honest about that lol

[_Renzo]

@An Pigeon

Imagine we all banded together and got what all of us want.

You would probably still have to get a lot of the air players and low-mid tier ground players on board for that to work, which is imo harder to do than getting most of the different nation mains on board.

[An_Pigeon]

@H_ngma_

Absolute classic at this point tbh. Relikt buff without any source whatsoever but Nato buffs need to be written by Charles de gaulle himself with Ink made from the blood of Eisenhower on a paper made from Churchills skin at this point.

It’s just ridiculous they’ve absolutely went hypocrital AF as well cause they said in 2021 what we provided would / should be enough

@H_ngma_

And the MI28NM shouldnt get 8 of them without any source, picture or evidence ever showing more than 4.

An Pigeon:

i mean lofting wise etc. the number of missiles these Helicopters carry I’ve absolutely no clue about man.

@H_ngma_

For sure, i just wish they were honest about that lol

They are!! cant you see that with their actions xd
yeah nah I agree man

[An_Pigeon]

@__Renzo__

You would probably still have to get a lot of the air players and low-mid tier ground players on board for that to work, which is imo harder to do than getting most of the different nation mains on board.

it’s futile and we’ll forever havea 1970 amroured abrams xD

[_Renzo]

At this point I’m not sure if I want to laugh or cry about the fact that the SEPv1 will still remain the best 12.7 Abrams in the US tree even nearly 4 years after it’s release.

Then there is that the most modern M1A2 version, the SEPv3, will likely be the worst 12.7 Abrams. And finally it’s hilarious that Gaijin seems to think the opposite, just shows how far out of touch they are with their own game.

[WaffleStomp0768-live]

I still don’t understand how they can be like “all weight went to turret”, and then…… nothing else. Where is their damning proof that this is the case? They can make claims and not back it up, but we can’t? Aren’t these bug reporting managers volunteers as well? Might be time to bring in some fresh guys.

[An_Pigeon]

@WaffleStomp0768-live

I still don’t understand how they can be like “all weight went to turret”, and then…… nothing else. Where is their damning proof that this is the case

all went to hte turret for a pitiful increase in armour. makes zero sense

[Hard_W0rker]

Especially with all that weight saving they did aswell lmao