From the front of the hull to that weld line? I only ask because this image of a SEP v3 shows that weld line at about the rear 1/4th of the metal fenders that cover the tracks.
In game and from other images I’ve seen the weld line is about half way on the fenders.
Anyone know any channels we can contact a moderator, perferably a Warthunder Issues Moderator, to review the a revised draft?
thats interesting, because in game the armor is 493mm thick including both front and back plates
its not impossible that the top section extends further than the armor itself to make assembly easier but it is interesting to note
LOSAT only has like 660 kinetic penetration lol
If the X-ray in WT is correct, the 101mm plate sits behind that weld line, meaning there’s only the 31.75mm plate and the NERA in front of it. If WT is correct on stating the NERA is 360mm, that means there’s only 391.75mm. If it’s now 600mm according to Jackvony, that means the SEP v3 AND v2 are missing a ton of armor. Whether that’s missing RHA, NERA, DU, or a combination is to be determined. I personally think the v2 filled that space in with NERA and the v3 replaced some of that NERA with DU.
of the Abrams bug report?
iirc it maxes at over 750mm
I don’t think you killed the joy at all, you legitimately just proved the SEP v2 along with the SEP v3 are both missing armor (provided the 101mm plate still sits behind the weld line).
A report thats drafted, but Tripod has reached out to some mods to see if they’d respond, so we will await
I’m not sure how y’all are measuring the WT model but I can assure you this is measured to the weld line.
It’s the same on every Abrams since at least the M1A1 (but almost certainly since M1). M1A1 measured below (this is a measurement to the back of the weldline instead of the front so it’s slightly longer):
If you agree that NEA refers to both turret and hull armor like budget document says, then NEA is specifically described as armor packages that are installed in place of previous packages in the armor cavity. So then, the only place in the hull that can fit a self contained composite armor package is the LFP armor cavity.
Valoujah Actual had said the hull sticks out more and the tank feels heavier
Additionally the crew compartment, in the turret, is smaller because turret sides take up more space in the interior and exterior
They operate a SEPv3
Could you get the measurement on the SEPv3? If that won’t get you penalized or anything
Correction: Don’t even if you can
What about the sideskirts, some have NERA elements too; would they not count also?
Treading on a thin line here
For that measurement, where is the weld line in relation to the fenders? If it hasn’t ever changed from 600mm, then why does the X-ray model in game not depict there being 600mm of LOS material? I’m just trying to see if Gaijin has had the model wrong the entire time.
You’re actually right,
Because he can’t, so I take that back, he will get reprimanded
On the model for the m1s lfp in wt theres like 100mm of air that at any point couldve been replaced with armor
Uh same place? I didn’t take this picture so I don’t have another version
Which I ran some rough calculations for relative to the weight increase.
