The standards to revise M1A2 SEPv3's armor NEED to be revised and calibrated

Doesnt need to because the armor backs it up

sorry but what? a T80BVM can not just hold W and go xD it get’s nuked stupidly fast. As I said you can shoot through the front of hte turret pretty much anywhere that’s not got relikt on it as @Panther2995 Taught me.
Apologies for pinging you man but seriously its a game changes the information xD

1 Like

And what happens if they peek out to shoot someone and miss? Or get ghost shelled? Or get gaijined and do no damage? Now the enemy has 6.4 seconds to place a carefully aimed shot on them, and a good reverse speed would get them out of that situation.

The Merkava 4 is quite speedy in the lower gears, giving it some great leap mobility. The Abrams only win against it in long lines. I tested both extensively a few months ago.

Lol. Not the case for Sweden, not the case for american desert, barely the case for Alaska outside of a few very specific spot with little sightlines. Not the case for Sun City. An Abrams in Maginot will always do better than an Abrams in these flat city maps. You can hide the hull and get kills from a power position on Maginot.

Transmission is just as important as the engine itself. The Merkava 4 has a goated transmission since they changed it a few years ago with an excellent gear ratio. Just because it was slow at release doesn’t mean it’s still slow.

2 Likes

No worries, glad I could helped :)

1 Like

Here we go. So from what I see, they are trying to say is that, they can’t find anything substantial about the hull and even when acknowledging that changes probably did take place, the only assumption they can make is that if there was any improvement, it would be against HEAT with minimal increase against KE.

10 Likes

Have you now, I’ve also tested them both mate and the Sep V2 still out performs it in acceleration without the kit.
The V1 is faster.

American desert certainly has hull down spots on it mate.

alaska has plenty on it as well mate.

see theres the issue mate, “flat” a pile of rubble can allow you to go hulldown, it doesn’t have to be a “hill” to facilitate hull down.

You can do that on a good few maps man.

I didn’t say the merkava was slow, I said it was slower than a sep V1 which has more HP/PT and accelerates slower as it does.
It’s top speed is slower and it may take off faster, but after gear 3 I think ti is , it slows down substantially. I’d know mate I’ve been using them since the start of may lol.

Just wish more folks knew about it!

1 Like

Ah that old chestnut. here we go again man.

What is this nonesnse @CyrusJacob Rather than you and I arguing over the mekrava and Abrams etc, look at this nonsense. the Sep V3 report definitively proved there was at least a KE protection increase of 35%; Gaijin nah! not real.

3 Likes

It would be nice if it was around 500mm and then they modeled the 25.4mm fuel steel bulkheads (19mm ingame) accepted from Community Bug Reporting System
Then combined, atleast the sides of the lfp with the fuel tanks behind them will have good protection

4 Likes

US military did not have enough budget to increase ke protection at all, so gaijin is definitely right :D

“we did it”
And the great buff is a grand total of 10mm , i can just see it.

4 Likes

I don’t think they’re going for such a small increase. Currently the M1A2s LFP is about 380-390ish mm vs KE, so for example 450mm vs KE wouldn’t be a massive leap in protection.

EDIT: I can see 500mm vs KE happening too, but the chance is definitely smaller imo.

5 Likes

xD as always man

Knowing htem I can see it being quite small, 150 for Chemical and like 40 if that for KE

The budget went to the white house MMA octagon.

xD aye true.
For real but they used the same torsion bar suspension bailout claim as the last time

The improvements to hull armor, though most likely minimal, will be nice in addition to all the other changes coming to the Abrams family this update. The biggest issue though is that they’re still not willing to accept any form of speculation in regards to armor it seems, as them allotting only 500kg for hull armor improvements completely ignores the potential for the composite armor array to change in order to be more weight efficient while still improving the protection of the vehicle. However, because we have no idea to the actual composition of the array, nor will we for decades, then under the constraints Gaijins current methodology this is the best outcome we’re going to get. Again, this reinforces my opinion that their current methodology, I.E needing concrete proof and not allowing for reasonable speculation, is not the correct approach. I can only wonder what they’ll do with regards to the T-14, M1A3, and 2A8, but I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

1 Like

I guess you’ll never understand the thing I was trying to explain.

1 Like

from reading the DOTE report on it

it seems like a4 was more intended for hard kill APS than ERA
and it was introduced late enough to be a response to T14 and its ERA not relikt

Most people too focused on whole paint rather than looking for tiny details which makes huge differences.

Thats why I like my T-90M much more than BVM because I know I can trust my armor at least (alongside with better survivability,spall liners and other features) :)

2 Likes