Finally, someone else gets it. They’re absolutely leveraging cognarive discomfort over long periods to get folks to leak stuff. It’s cheaper than other spycraft, and effective because the primary subject has no idea that their dopamine hit is being intentionally threatened.
Very effective for the patient spy, which russia and china are both masters at.
We all know the reason for this, they have direct access to Russian documents for modeling those vehicles, and such set that as the standard for modeling other vehicles as well.
this forum isn’t even about any Russian vehicle what are you talking about its talking about the sep 3 also if im saying what your saying why did you even send a picture of a bvm’s roof being penned by KE-W
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Oh I don’t know Kh-38, BMP-T, Relikt armour, rounds that phase through ammunition carousels but hit the engine… Gen 3 thermals (Yeah Russian thermals are terrible in comparison) Pantsir SV missile having no drag, BUK being the only SAM to be able to fire without the Radar unit despite Skysabre being proven to have that capability. Oh and that experimental APHE round they gave the Yak so it could ruin low tier games.
DIRCCM Russian helis had it first for months
They just choose what they want to do and action a bug report if it aligns with the gameplay decisions
[DEV] M1A2C Missing Hull Armor Upgrades // Gaijin.net // Issues Here we go again I tried to clear some things up when the mods talked about enhanced crew survivability and whether it was actually talking about the armor because it clearly states here that it includes the armor.
If nothing else, you might get a response as to where their number for the turret came from, which would be a step in the right direction
If you lack information on how much the armor was improved then that gives them more room to increase the armor in an amount that gives the tank both an improvement and maintains balance in the game, Basically every top tier tank in the game is using roughly estimated numbers or just guesses into what the armor value is, as you said gajin knows the armor was upgraded so they know they can increase the amount of armor on the hull, without knowing an exact number it actually gives them more freedom to make the hull armored balanced. But it is downright dirty to not add this and hold a double standard here when other countries saw upgrades to their armor based off of a similar amount of evidence.
We have the vagueness of armor used for balance before such as with the type 10 which has received nerfs to its armor for balance, or the Ariete in which they knew it was underperforming but not by how much so they just gave it a slight increase, all of the T series tanks aren’t really using anything for their better armor arrays other than a similar situation in which we got told the tank saw increased armor but no number was given. I’m not so sure on this either But I believe the Challengers and Merkavas also followed similar logic in that we know later variants had armor upgrades but didn’t have a source as to how much so they just got a rough upgrade in armor that felt balanced and good for the tank. In fact pretty much the Leopards seem to be the only ones truly based on really any actual source with known numbers.
So for Gajin to not be adding a rough upgrade to the hull armor for the Abrams because they don’t have an exact number when they have done this for most other nations MBTs is Hypocritical and that is the communities point you are not understanding. The community isn’t asking Gajin to be hypocritical its pointing out that the way they are currently implementing the tank is hypocritical to how they have done other countries tanks. But I get it you have an axe to grind with the Abrams for some reason and all of this was pretty much pointless to say to you.
Correct me if im wrong but 3.8tons were added for the turret cheek armor addition right? Guessing its just the front cheek plates I did a little math and if they are roughly .8x1meter the additional thickness of steel would be 61cm. Just adding this
would someone mind helping me compile some sources to help the sep v3 to get the an/vvr-4 laser detecting system so we can help the sep 3 get a lws
According to some napkin math the armor plates should be about 2.3-3.0 ton. However there are still 2 problems:
The 150mm RHA plates in general seem to be made up by Gaijin. Since there are no signs on the SEPv3 turret irl of a external armor plate being mounted, welded or attached to it.
The plates are listed as RHA in game, but are clearly not RHA in terms of performance.
"The M1 Abrams tank marked the third generation, adding capabilities in:
Protection enhanced by the introduction of composite armors in combination with rolled homogeneous armor that defeated all kinetic and chemical energy penetrators then fielded by the Soviet Union."
page 30
3BM22 Zakolka (1976)
The original M1 Abrams entered official service with the United States Army in 1980
Result in Warthunder: Shell goes from side to side of the abrams.
Armor is a mix of composites and other materials these days doing the weight of steel will not get you anywhere near the correct number.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/SK4MHyCTuy6W
The response to fhis one is downright hilarious
Still better than the response the 2a7 And pso received. They’re not gonna change by simply calling them out
Ya they really have no idea what they are talking about.
I enjoy him saying both the hull has seen no upgrades because of it not being heavier and having received upgrades only for mines and other protection back to back. Schrödinger’s hull.
“The proportions of the hull didn’t change”.
Yeah, I guess they still couldn’t figure any alternative composition to the original 1970s Chobham lmao.
Only way to upgrade the hull would have been to make it thicker, clearly.
as if they didn’t change the turret composition in the M1A1 and the later M1A1/M1A2 variants, they actually did that without changing the armor thickness ingame.
Honestly WTF
just gaijin being intentionally naive as per usual i dont understand why they cant just accept that the US is probably going to use the same material in the hull composite that they do in the turret composite
