The Re.2005 VDM situation is crazy

I’ll put all the sources together when I have the time. At the moment, I’m waiting to get the German book about the DB 605 engine.

If you want to make a bug report, feel free to use the sources.

Also, do you know how the rate of climb (RoC) is defined by Gaijin? At which altitudes?

In reality, two Re.2005 aircraft existed in different conditions — one used at the test site for comparisons against the C.205, G.55, Fw 190, and Bf 109, and another in standard operational condition.

The damaged re.2005 had a climb rate of (mm.494)

Altitude Time (s) Rate (m/s)

2000 m 1’58" = 16.95 m/s
4000 m 4’05" = 16.33 m/s
6000 m 6’33" = 15.27 m/s
8000 m 9′42″ = 13.75 m/s

Total max weight 3560kg

max-V 628.5km/h

The normal re.2005 had a climb rate of (serie 0)

Altitude Time (s) Rate (m/s)

2000 m 1’35" = 21.05 m/s
6000 m 5’30" = 18.18 m/s
8000 m 7’50" = 17.02 m/s

Total max weight 3610kg

max- V 678km/h (up to in testflight 720km/h)

If you want to know which sources I used let me know

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In this post you can find all the sources I used:

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Most of the books consulted are in Italian; some have both Italian and English text, and two are entirely in English.

In my bug report, I included the translation of the main reference — Govi’s book — since for the aircraft MM495, only a few brief mentions appear in the other sources.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/CQMp8ULAnVQY

Sources:

  1. Sergio Govi – Dal Re.2002 al Re.2005 – Storia degli aerei Reggiane – Gruppo Caponi, Giorgio Apostolo Editore, 1984, p.157. (Courtesy translation attached)
  2. Profile No. 244: Caproni Reggiane Re.2001 Falco II, Re.2002 Ariete & Re.2005 Sagittario – John F. Brindley, pp. 236–237.
  3. Reggiane Fighters – George Punka – Squadron/Signal: In Action No. 177.
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Just to share to the pubblic.

During the tests at Guidonia, the Re.2005’s engine had several issues. FIAT, which held the license to produce the DB 605 engine in Italy, deliberately withheld and delayed the delivery of engines to both Macchi and Reggiane — and certainly did not provide them with the best units — since their own G.55 was competing and, rather conveniently, emerged as the best of the three. In later tests, once the engine problems were resolved, the Re.2005 had no difficulty achieving the performance figures claimed by Reggiane.

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The Re.2005 VDM situation is crazy - #43 by S_bastienZ88[quote=“paolgand1975-psn, post:45, topic:278565, full:true”]

What you wrote is the part of my post with the damaged re.2005 and its stats.

Thank you

Just to share to the pubblic.

During the tests at Guidonia, the Re.2005’s engine had several issues. FIAT, which held the license to produce the DB 605 engine in Italy, deliberately withheld and delayed the delivery of engines to both Macchi and Reggiane — and certainly did not provide them with the best units — since their own G.55 was competing and, rather conveniently, emerged as the best of the three. In later tests, once the engine problems were resolved, the Re.2005 had no difficulty achieving the performance figures claimed by Reggiane.
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To clarify, when you mention “two” Re.2005s, are you making a distinction between the individual MM.494 prototype and the whole pre-production series (Serie 0) or a distinction between two individual aircraft? The wording is a little ambiguous and confusing because it could imply that only two aircraft were built (and not the 48 figure I regularly see). I’m curious if that’s just your writing or a product of translation (or I’m an idiot). It’s a bit nitpicky but I imagine any translation from Italian → English → Russian might have a lot of holes that can explain the Devs’ reaction.

As for report writing, I think it’s definitely best to wait for all the sources. If Gaijin keeps stonewalling the reports then whoever comes in with the next report needs a clear and ironclad argument.

Concerning climbrate data, the statcard rates are still largely a mystery, although I can run some rudimentary tests tomorrow (Pacific timezone). Ballpark estimates I’d say the cards are generally around 100% throttle (no wep), half fuel, clean loadout, 3000-5000m?

There were only 2 prototype MM.494 and MM.495