The problem with new minor nation trees

Form this polish IGN interview with Gaijin. We have nothing more then they have something planed.

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Given that BASE M41’s where in service pre modifiction, and would be part of the earlier tech tree if added, thats why It would be copy and paste, unless you want a stabilized and therm equipped M41 at 5.0?

Missed on that one

Same as the M41 modification, the base model is a C&P and would be lower than the modified version

Again, what domestic production? The Fokker reserve tier planes? The handful of armored car/APC designs

It’ll never not be funny how Firefly will be considered unique but M-51 can be called copy paste.

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I still think there is still space for proper independent tech trees. Not like a sea of them but 4 or 5 nations max and sub trees that could be added into them.

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It saddens me to see that all your scientific decorum regarding research comes to ‘cope’. Then, instead of countering my arguments with your own, you change the subject to the BeNeLux suggestion, while doing that you make another ignorant statement about the uniqueness of that tech tree’s suggestion while taking the vehicles suggested at face value.

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2 at absolute max, A unified Korea tree and maybe some kind of unified minor nation modification tree

And tell me exactly why the extensive modifications get ignored?
Who is to say base M41 even has to be added with so many alternatives being available.

Of course you did, just as you missed the myriad of Belgian variants too.
Perhaps having a look at some point would’ve helped that.

Exactly, which means we’re looking at a unique vehicle.

Yes, as well as local light tanks and SPAA systems, fleets of vehicles, extensive turret industry in Belgium, you name it…

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Oh this. I know about this but at the same time Gaijin made the special event to appreciate the Turkish community so there is a high chance for Turkey as well. There is also Hungarian Air Tree in the works.

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Belgian “CP”

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Pattons: the M47 has a laser rangefinder, not copy paste
M41: which one? the one with the LCTS turret or the one with the Cockerill Mk.IV? not CP.
Firefly: copy paste
M26: copy paste
Leopard 1A5: different (better) Belgian shell, not copy paste.
M24: new electrical transmission, better mobility and reverse speed, not CP.
Gepard: CP.
JPK-90: laser rangefinder, different powerpack, not CP.
M109: probably CP but i know there’s a M108/109 hybrid horror around.
M113: which ones, the ones with the Cockerill 25 or 90 mm turrets? not CP.
Mirage IIIC: Flares/chaff dispenser, different missiles, other avioncs changes and a variant with canards. Not CP.
The rest are pretty much CP although they were license produced in Belgium.

Dutch “CP”

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Leopards: CP.
CV9035: specifically dutch variant, not CP.
M113: not the most unique but not copy pasted from anything either.
Cheetah: i believe the radar is different, but i am not as comfortable with Dutch stuff (valid for other Dutch vehicles, feel free to correct me)
M109 (L52): Dutch prototype with a longer barreled cannon.
M47: that’s not in the tree is it?
Centurion: some are CP, some are not with an improved powerpack.
Firefly: i believe it is CP
Shermans: not unique but i believe variants not in game.
Crusader: …that’s not in the tree either
M3: same thing? don’t remember that in the tree
The following planes are either indeed copy paste, specific dutch variants or straight up not in the tree.

So as you can see a lot of the copy paste comes from high tier air, but you wouldn’t happen to main a tree in the same situation would you?

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Gaijin did specifically namedrop Korea as a particular interest of theirs in the same video QNA that they revealed plans for Finland.

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A turkish tree would be awesome, but where would they put it? (they have a heli and a jet in italy and a tank in the USA).

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Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Poland (with UA as a sub tree if people would be okay with that), United Korea and Spain with Portugal

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Again, what is “Unique” about a tree that is very much copy and paste? A handful of modified vehicles, another smaller handful of domestic production?
Thats not even to mention the other slew of issues regarding such a tree. Why would people want to grind a tree that doesnt offer anything really unique and full of C&P? Israel is already one of the least played trees, and China while growing more and more popular, was disliked for the longest time because of how C&P heavy it was at release. What about the big BR gaps Israel and to a lesser extent Sweden and China experience?

The 1a5 had unique tracks compared to the German variant.

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well yeah but that doesn’t impact gameplay does it

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Yeah that too

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I believe it had better offroad speed, at least according to the guy at Gunfire Brasschaat.

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Plenty more than that comrade, we wouldn’t even need to combine nations in a bunch of cases.

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They could do it like Israel honestly. It probably would be the best way

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The only C&P to me is Literal.

If I buy an M92 from California, and the California base vehicle is added to its tree it’s C&P.

Well if I get the ability to build it in snow town, it is not C&P.

Or if I have maple carworks do modifications to it after receiving it from California then is not C&P


Domestically built and modified not C&P. Received the vehicle from someone else and didn’t do anything to it C&P.

Wait why am I telling you this?

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