The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Yea, mister sixty three, you’re always honest.

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So im looking bad, because you cant be bothered to do the slightest amount of research into things before saying something? Its been 6 years since PARS got added as the first NATO AGM missing lofting there is about 0% chance that someone as present on the forum as you has not seen the discussions and evidence about missing loft for any NATO AGM so spare me the act. And again you commented on the loft only, not a single word about the LDIRCM.

Did i say its op or at least more op than the others? No. I said its objectively the most unrealistic, overperforming iteration of all LDIRCM Helis.

You mean the stats that include the 4 years where it didnt have LMURs? Please keep your lazy attempts at using misleading data for the people that fall for it.

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Look, I don’t disagree with you that people should learn to counter the new Pantsir with the tools that they have

However, the fact that the Pantsir gives one teams helicopters free reign over the skies because only the Pantsir can properly counter helis has to be addressed

That’s why (L)DIRCM is relevant to the Pantsir being problematic

I will note this. You have a problem with people in this thread, yet continue to engage with them. It seems a little hypocritical to keep calling for forum mods when you yourself keep engaging with people.

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I fully agree that they’re both problems, it just became a problem when the thread solely started talking about LDIRCM and going off topic.

OP = over preforming…

My god… you lot need to step back from the internet.

And no, I don’t spend every waking moment researching things to win an argument on the internet.

I like to play video games and enjoy them. Not argue with an computer screen.

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How do you reccomend I counter it? I play the United States. Only time I killed one so far was dropping a JADAM ER towards their spawn and it just happen to hit him right after he spawned.

I can’t even lie about saying this, but I genuinely managed to hold around a 4.5-6 K/D with it right now (Lowkey gotta check what it is rn tho)

I recommend rocket runs. Sure they’re extremely dangerous, but if you spam enough rockets at the location of the pantsir, they cannot intercept all of them. The one downside is that if they can hide behind something/move then they’re ineffective. I typically run both mavericks and rockets and use them in tandem to overwhelm.

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Fair point, it seems like the ongoing argument between a couple of people here has kind of left the Pantsir behind lol

Superhornet cannot use the unguided rockets accuratly due to its outward facing pylons.

That’s one way to look at it.

Especially when they slander you in many threads.

Getting the forums to get them out of here instantly solves the problem no?
And last I checked, trying to talk to them logically wasn’t a problem.

When they make themselves mad, that’s on themselves no reason for them to be disrespectful 24/7

I’m off by .6, it’s sitting at a 6.6 K/D right now with nearly an 80% win rate. It may be a little too good

Again, use them as tandem weapons. Rockets will be the distraction and your mavericks/JDAMs are you actual counters.

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Using what setup?

Oh okay so shoot the 70mm rockets at their spawn then go in with the SLAMERS and mavericks, why didnt I think of that, thank you I will try it when I get on later.

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Yes overperforming OVER ITS IRL VERSION ffs.

You have 6900 posts created on this forum. Dont act like youre some newbie here lol

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8 95Ya6Ms and 16 Midget missiles (Lowkey forgot the name of the missile so I call it midget missile)

Old fashioned strafing or low level bombing runs

If you don’t have anyone to coordinate with you have to rely on your ability to surprise the Pantsir

If you do have a buddy, you can approach from multiple angles, that way the Pantsir can be overwhelmed

Alternatively, have your buddy look for the Pantsir and kill it with a ground vehicle lol