The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Is GRB i use it now to clean up SUs and Helis I can barely bother with tanks being the Panstur exists only way i can come close to killing it is JDAMs less than 3km

A2G ARMs don’t even the playing field and I’m not sure what makes you think that they would

A Pantsir won’t care about an incoming ARM, but most other SAMs do have to worry about not just ARMs, but all other kinds of incoming missiles and bombs as well

The Kh-38MT isn’t matched by an ARM either, they don’t even serve the same purpose

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good for you, because all i see is this but 10x the fire rate

Kh-31P

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Both serve as options for DEAD
Mechanically - Missile lock on to AA, hit aa, aa go boom
That’s what I meant.

The pantsir doesn’t care, it’s the reaction time and staying low and supersonic that I care about.
Which cannot be achieved with the weapons for many other nations.

R-27P/EP, if we get into more obscure weapons as well

I have only found evidence for normal P existing and it’s sketchy at best.

Also 27P/EP are air to air.

In speed it is, but you are correct about purpose even though newer AGM-88 can target non-radiating stuff

Are those HESH rounds?

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If you come face to face and it shots first yeah, you’re more than likely cooked but most times I see it first I win. But yes, TKX and Type 10 are the last tanks to rely on armor

Ah, aight then

Are they like non detectable?

What’s wrong with carrying HESH rounds?

And smoke rounds??

Very very useful sometimes. Rather have them and not need them than vice versa.

No, they can be detected with radar and EO/IR but they don’t emit anything themselves

How would that even help the game? I can do that with jdams.

at that point every tank is better than BMPT including BMPT itself

If it’s not APFDS or a round that can take out CAS it’s useless. HESH and Smoke I have never seen useful but smoke being the worst for griefing teammates

One of the two is a general purpose AGM and the other is a dedicated anti anti air missile

The Kh-38MT doesn’t care about what it is launched at, as long as it has an IR signature

ARMs can only target anti air vehicles with active radar systems

Against SAMs these may be similar, but not in general use and again, adding ARMs doesn’t solve the actual problem AND it makes life harder for non-Pantsirs

Exactly unless you catch the BMPT hull down and it’s turret is the only thing exposed then you’re just cooked if you fire. But I’m talking 12.7 and lastly I don’t want to take away from this forum so you can tag me in BMPT topic. I agree it’s a tank that shouldn’t be in game hands down.