True, but Russian SPAA is infinitely better at intercepting.
Not an issue in the slightest.
It’s not as effective of a missile + you can still spam LMURs
Ah okay. I tried to remember off the top of my head. I’ll change that. Still impressive for not playing ground for a while.
Best way to put it is that all LDIRCM helis are equally busted, no matter the nation.
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Changed now. Thanks for letting me know.
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I’ve been watching this thread for a while now and no one’s given me a reliable counter to the new Pantsir other than spawncamping. The best I’ve done was using the Comanche in a ratty spot and shooting at it through a small peek. Any better alternatives?
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fr thats what I mean lol
The best way is probably spamming GPS bombs in the spawn trying to take the pantsir attention and going close and trying to kill it, since it will always have the advantage because of the radar and amount of missiles that it has. Even if it doesnt kill you, you are not going to hit it at long ranges.
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No, the Shrike-A(AGM-54A)'s Mk. 39 motor is based of the AIM-7E Sparrow’s Mk. 38 motor and is about the same weight as a Sparrow so Performance can be considered to be similar (Shrike A AUR’s is ~10kg lighter), though it may loft at longer ranges(depends on which mode is modeled).
The AGM-45B’s Mk. 78 is in game already on the AGM-123(Shrike is ~180kg, Skipper is ~600kg). Both Shrike’s should be supersonic capable out to a fair distance.
ST-ARM (AGM-78) is an Air Launched Standard missile so can be assumed to be somewhat similar so should be about Mach 3.5
HARM(AGM-88) is rated at Greater than Mach 2 , so who knows.
And the AGM-122 Sidearm is literally an AIM-9C.
In short they are far faster than the Maverick, Harpoon & Glide bombs that sit at about Mach 0.8~0.9.
Also if we really needed it there is also the SRAM (AGM-69) on the F-111, B-52 & B-1.
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I mean the Pantsir SM SV is not that broken, its missile is something we already have in game, in by your logic 2K22 AKA 2S6 should be more op as it is faster and lighter and smaller with the same 4 30mm, and you are talking about spawn camping, that just means your teammate are to blame lol just because they left the game after 3 death.
In all spaa right from all Br, Gepard and Itpsv is the most broken lo. Just got it like 2 days ago before my game decided to break, I got a nuke with it
An actuall good SPAA for shoebox maps
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The missile is new by the way
yes indeed, but the smaller ones is only good for taking out munition, talking about the actual Pantsir missiles like the 9k something one
Only recently. Russian 10.3/10.7 is still a strong lineup.
Matchmaker issue, happens to many BRs and every nation
The LMURs are most effective due to their success rate
What are you saying
All FnF helis are OP, the Mi28 more so because it carries LMURs
Lower SP cost to basically none then
Most players dont drive around with HEAT/HE/HESH loaded
VT is for air, HEAT is NOT for the BMPT but rather soft targets
I was talking about BMPT players. I catch them sideon most often. Nothing to do with US mains.
Virtually all 8.3/8.7 SPAA is overpowered and should lose their AP belts
You misunderstood my entire post
Wrong, I’m a mixed nation air main. Ground-wise I enjoy 6.7-7.3 heavies because top tier is cancerous.
my fault it is indeed new, i forgot and didnt see the M on the 95Ya6
well you can have like 48 missiles to counter munitions + the ammo box. Thats at least like 2 apache with FnF
Thanks. I hate that I have do drop half my ordinance as nothing more than a distraction
Again you misunderstood literally everything. Scroll up or don’t attack me.
do understand that you can always dodge and get low to avoid the missile, and also you can always spam your whole salvo on one anti air until its destroyed, if one salvo is not enough, rearm and keep spamming, that what I do with my MI-28nm against IRIST and other Nato spaa (again both American ones don’t count, they are actually ass)