The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

At least compare the Mi-28MN to the AH-64E and the Z-10ME bruh

i was mainly compating LMUR to hellfire tbh

Since pantsir SMSV was added, none of these sound op. Yes it doesn’t match the capability of the SMSV but provides some sort of iron dome defense at least.

I don’t have high hopes for this

How are LMURs and Hellfires comparable?

Don’t talk to him, he’s the guy that said puma was better than the BMPT a while ago.

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Ohhh, aight lol

both fire and forget tho hellfires get lower BR and you can carry more at a time

As I said, west went a different route, Russia went a different route.

Like think about it for the BUK, an AESA radar that can still lock and track without the main radar vehicle and still fire. U.S has it all separated to different vehicles because sure I guess

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Is this ragebait?

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what are you on

My main issue with the whole spaa/cas dynamic is that Russia has the most oppressive of both

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Some of those are mounted on ethier stupid big platforms, or are stationary

Skyguard Skyshield can be mounted on Boxers (Skyranger? Don’t remember the name for the vehicle) and both the MLBPWS and HSVD/ADAMS are mobile systems

(MLBPWS standing for Mobile Land-based Phalanx Weapon System, ADAMS standing for Air Defense Advanced Mobile System)

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not skyguard
2025-09-09-Rheinmetall-DSEI-Lynx-Skyranger-35.f36eb12e

Idk much about the rest though

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I think what hes trying to say that despite the Mi28 being more effective, Apaches can still spam hellfires, hover over helipads, rinse and repeat.

Regardless if its worse than the Mi 28, its still opressive. (All helicopters are)

i wan’t saying it was better overall but the pros of the puma has compared to the BMPT, like what the PUMA has thats way better, that the BMPT didn’t, not saying the PUMA was better overall

If you think that puma having more pen than BMPT is a pro, that says alot. And the fact that you think hellfires are FnF, jesus dude do a google search

i dont get it - tell me why is the LMUR “biased”? like the only heli in USSR can get 8 max and the AH-64E gets AGM-179 JAGM-MR (IR) air-to-ground missiles and 16 of them but no one really says thats bias?

These would work, but it probably woukdnt satisfy players, but its all they got.