If I’m not mistaken, both of the new missiles do have fuzes, but they require a radar lock to fuze as I’ve heard.
Edit: This is indeed the case
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It is a sidegrade of the SM2 at best, it is a direct upgrade from the original SM.
The Su-30SM2 and the Su-35 share the engines and radar, and the Su-35 is able to get R-77M/P/T so they can just quash any semblance of a fight.
The current meta is to play until Russia wins (by getting you either out-BVR’d/CAS’d/CAP’d/AA’d).
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My favourite youtuber. Such an amazing individual with 100% original content. And he’s very interesting and smart (THIS IS THE PUREST SARCASM I CAN MUSTER UP)
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You don’t play Russia you don’t win. It has always been +/- the truth, but these past few months, it’s just obvious af
Ngl when I learnt Russia fixed their cannon before anything while NATO tanks fixed their tracks and engine before anything else + the ability of the new Pantsir to make its missiles explode when near the tracked target, even if it’s low to the ground (the missile is supposed to explode when entering contact to the ground, but with this SPAA it does not and rather detect the range between the missile and the tracked target before exploding when close enough), I snapped
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This maybe is a digital live brochure for the industry to sell stuff they ready to offer…in case princes of Saudi Arabia play this game → OMG, RUS anti air is actually peak… Youssef, get them on the line, I wanna buy some
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I have the perfect idea. Indian/Jordanian Pantsir for Britain. It fixes absolutely nothing and gives Gaijin a change to C&P a vehicle already in the game. They should hire me for my genius.
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Nah, they aren’t that dumb.
They already bought interceptor drones from the yellow and blue country to blow up Shaheeds.
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If I’m not mistaken, both of the new missiles do have fuzes, but they require a radar lock to fuze as I’ve heard. I’ll need someone to double check that ofc
- the ability of the new Pantsir to make its missiles explode when near the tracked target, even if it’s low to the ground (the missile is supposed to explode when entering contact to the ground, but with this SPAA it does not and rather detect the range between the missile and the tracked target before exploding when close enough)
It’s that yes
The fuze gets triggered if there is no lock (and explodes when close to the ground), but does not if a target is locked, and rather gets triggered once close enough to the locked target
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But the us got a subsonic missile that drives itself into the ground and a reskinned jdam-er! it was very necessary!
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G-load is misleading. A higher g-load with a lower speed is far more maneuverable than a faster missile of the same g-load.
Then you have engine impulse which stronger engine impulses reduce maneuverability as well.
This is why the HQ17’s and TOR-M1’s missiles are far more maneuverable than Pantsir’s missile.
Which is 32G… for the proximity warhead missile.
Also… 50G at 1700 meters per second is worse at maneuvering than 40G at 1100 meters per second, let alone 50G at 1250 meters per second.
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They definitely do perform better than what any other counter parts have in game. I don’t think there is really any other thing like it. It’s like the kh38mt. Busted as hell. anyway I agree with @BasherBenDawg8 this is just another example of Russia thunder. Cause every update they have something new for Russia. Every. Update. Yet to be left out for one. It’s felt like a very long time that any other nation gets something unique before Russia. Israel being the first to get a dual pulse rocket. But even then they’ve added that new pantsir to absolutely wipe the sky of munitions and cas. And I’m not saying that nations shouldn’t get new additions. But when are we gonna slow down on giving one specific nation capabilities that others don’t have yet. Every nation should have somewhat of a capability similar to balance. I think the bmpt is an example of ridiculous logic and broken reasoning. Never forget that they added that thing at 10.3 and struggled to even budge it to 11.3 for a while. When other nations would flat out be moved in a day or two. But that’s off topic. The new pantsir was just unnecessary really
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I genuinely believe that this is not bad.
The problem certainly comes when Russia gets both new and good additions every. single. update. I still have to recall the time they added a vehicle as mediocre for Russia as the Booker for the US while they not only got the Su-30SM2, but the BMPTs at that same update.
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I’m being honest rn saying that this guy is most likely a troll.
The other days, I wasted hours of my life explaining by A+B+C+Z why there was a russian bias, with long lists and all
Bro started stuttering nonsense, then defended the idea NATO was finaly bad and that there might be a russian bias, anyway dude probably making waste our time ngl
I remember him saying spikes werent broken, lmurs were as good as agms, bushmaster was as good as russian autocannons… bro smells troll
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@Got_a_choppa
Not sure why you’re coming in to provoke people instead of discuss the matter.
I want to see real life information that proves War Thunder’s implementation of LMUR is correct.
Soviets went the longest without a tank after T-90M. One year between T-90M and 2S19M1.
They also went the longest without an M1A2 equivalent MBT.
Your post reads as attacking critics, by the way. You should fix that.
I’ll keep critiquing War Thunder regardless of what people say.
Edit:
War Thunder went a year without adding any tank to USSR’s tech tree; and because of that, now they’re over-saturating additions a bit.
Of course, the SPAA holes of War Thunder also caused over-saturation of SPAA a bit, but at the end of the day it does not matter if any country has mid, good, or meta SPAA, because as long as CAS is shot down or deterred from spawning, matches are a better place with higher survivability.
The team that spawns more CAS eats more spawn points, and complaining about SPAA additions is silly.
This new SPAA doesn’t impact me, so complaining about it would be incorrect when I’m not going to be facing it myself. All I can is speak from my perspective; and even if I spawned FCAS, I’d be more worried about SAMP than Pantsir.
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E-sport ready in their dreams
“So huh, what’s the META in this game to win the competition man ?”
“There is not META. But between you and me… * whispering * take a leo or t-serie or you’re done”
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When there are nations like Japan who doesn’t have a strong top tier SPAA, Russia had to get another SPAA to counter SLAM ER.
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IDK, it seems good. Could probably be defeated easier than Aster-30, but I’d honestly need to do 1v1s with SPAA players again to know the finer details of differences between missiles.
All I know is I learned how to dodge Pantsir’s missiles, and I learned that BUK is at least good, but I haven’t tested against more than Buk in-depth hours on end like I have against Pantsir, TOR, and ITO.
I stopped testing in-depth when I started prioritizing team work at top BR, which means little to no CAS spawning.
Edit: My biases are anti-CAS at the end of the day.
Not because I have negative experiences against CAS, but because I have negative experiences with teams losing due to spawning CAS.
So for me, irrelevant of tech tree, the more SPAA the better. I will never complain about SPAA because I wanted top CAS to be countered since 2021; and Gaijin actioned our criticisms.
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Play the game bro. We’re talking about LMURS for crying out loud. Just open your eyes bro. And I’m not a game dev. You can ask gaijin why they like to make better additions and modeling for Russia. I don’t know where you get your information bro but you can ask the community and majority will agree that Russia is a huge favorite for gaijin. Nice live edit btw. Love that you gotta go back and keep adding to your throne of bs and glazing. Continue humoring me.
I’ve only ever seen you critiquing the playerbase for pointing out gaijin’s favoritism and flat out bias. Not ever a time I’ve ever went into a thread and don’t find you making up some nonsense to defend Russian/ unnecessary additions. Again bro continue living in fantasies
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Type 03’s issue is it can’t hit anything close range as it soars straight up in the sky as soon as it launches. And it can’t even hit targets from long range. Plus Buk can launch missiles even if the main radar vehicle gets destroyed.
Me personally, I disagree with Gaijin thinking Buk was the worst top tier SPAA, type 03 is worse than the buk.
And if they add SPAA like the new Pantsir, they should have thought about other nations’ capability of offering similar competition. Its not like they’re gonna add C-RAM for America. Essentially it looks like Russia gets an OK Buk for CAS, the best Pantsir for the best iron dome, the best CAS missile, and the best radar for their CAS. I just think that Gaijin should turn their attention to nations that are lacking in top tier and then we can move on to cool new things.
I agree, I don’t hate the new Pantsir as if I get on Russia’s team I benefit. But it still feels wrong…
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Bro is a gigantic troll that’s why
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