The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

Thats nonsense. The only reason arm is as effective as it is is because the sm sv players are terrible, sm sv should have 0 problems with arms

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Not everyone is going to be cracked at the game.

F-18s flying low level and lobbing agm-88s at close range aren’t to be reckoned with, leaves very little reaction time.

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oh yes very low reaction time, just like what everyone else has been dealing with for years with KH38 and much worse AAs?

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idk bro smsv ain’t countering a kh31 launching from sub 10km. something like a sampt is better at that, though honestly basically all spaas are cooked

Maybe I need to clarify that ARMS don’t need a visual on their target, meaning you can effectively do much more than with a KH-38 if you try hard enough.

And funny you bring up worse AAs. So that means we shouldn’t be adding any more ARMs to the game since they clearly are effecting other nations.

Deflecting back towards the Kh-38 just because I made a comment about low level strikes with ARMs doesn’t mean anything in this scenario if you just agreed someone has a weapon on-par too it in terms of speed. Which means it makes Anti-airs job that much worse across the board.

except maybe if you look at who is dying to HARM it seems to be a lot of russian players despite having objectively better SAMs

its almost like russain AA players are on average absolutely terrible at the game

and yes an aware S1 or SMSV can easily intercept even close range HARM launches

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…a result of the 14 years of pampering, that begun with LaLas and Yaks, back in '12 and is still going strong.

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Thats what happens when you give salty wallet warriors stuff they never used. K band (track radar) should be invulnerable to arm but noobie has no clue how to turn off radar and rely on t-6-1 and only sometimes do brief radar checks. And irst to counter tws bugs and orbital strike attempts.

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I don’t care who is dying to what. Everybody has been dying to HARMS across the board

just because one nation has a good anti-air doesn’t mean players are magiccally going to be good at it, becacuse apparantely that’s what people expect which is unrealistic at best. It does not matter how good or how easy it may seem to use that vehicle, bad players average across all nations in any vehiccle, not just Russia.

just because ccertain nations may have good vehicles, doesn’t mean the players you give them too are going to be saavy with them

SmSV cacn intercept close range HARM launches if they’re paying attention, but isn’t always guaranteed.

you mean its significantly more likely that pretty much any other AA in the game intercepting a close range KH38 launch?

you know something that russian CAS has been able to do for years

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More likely doesn’t mean guaranteed. But from what it sounds like here, it’s not the SM-SV that’s the problem then… Because one AA having a 50/50 chance, depending on the map, terrain, etc to intercecpt an ARM or KH-38 if you will is not going to make the game fall apart.

It’s simply how the maps are designed that allows for this to happen in the first place.

Know how the removed the BUK from Nuclear Thunder for being “too powerful?” Ground RB it has nothing close to the rep it has in Nuclear Thunder, that alone is because Nuclear Thunders map design favors ALL sam sites, bringing them up to the level of lethality they should have.

Pinning this on the SM-SV does no good if you don’t look at other factors.

except it is because the smsv

they needed to add ARMs because smsv was so unbalanced that it completely shut down the other teams CAS

if they hadnt added the smsv in its absurdly over preforming state then they wouldnt have had to add ARMs in an attempt to rebalance CAS

That is defienetely not the reason they added ARMS.

Keep in mind western nations almost always fight western nations, so they end up fighting their own stuff every match anyways. Regardless of who got what, because of what.

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They move at mach 3 which has made it very easy to kill panstir. Then if i bring agms or bombs i go for tanks.

K.D. means nothing when the Pantsir are the only ones capable of destroying helicopters and planes with the same effectiveness, and guess what? In top tier, it’s much more common for 13.0 helicopters to spawn and destroy the whole team in a few minutes…

LDIRCM was so needed

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So balanced

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So fun

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From Gaijins perspective it probably was. Russian winrates were utter garbage after they added modern SPAA so something had to be done to make up for the simple fact that KH38MT were not untouchable anymore.

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they were even added at the same time

Mi28 and the chinese one got LDIRCM in the same patch that added multi vehicle SAMs