The Pantsir SM-SV is Simply Too Strong, Russian Bias as Clear as Day

[Metaltank1990]

Brimstone is not in game. The gimped pseudo-hellfire we have does not count.

[Flanker_Thunder]

@Metaltank1990

Brimstone is not in game

@Metaltank1990

he gimped pseudo-hellfire we have does not count.

it’s name is “Brimstone”, it’s supersonic, it’s a Brimstone.

[gfdsa_killer]

@AlvisWisla

USA has the most amount of under-BR’d vehicles in the game, but that’s a symptom of a larger problem.

The only US under-BR vehicle that comes to my mind its the T-58, aside from that I do not have any problem facing US in different BRs.

@AlvisWisla

This is not bias, because just like with many mistakes in the past, Gaijin can’t know with certainty what additions will do, they can only guestimate.

For something to be bias it has to be:
1- Intentional.
2- With previous existing knowledge, knowing it will cause x situation.
3- Not even 1 other tech tree has vehicles/weapons at-BR to face relevant opponents.

Gaijin leaving op vehicles in their same state over months or years, just to finally get a BR nerf or smth…
BMPT at launch was fair, deadly 30mm ammo-rack just like IRL but then they added buffs just a couple of days later, and finally a BR increase after weeks from 10.3 to 10.7…

Remember when it was impossible to kill or disable a 2s38 at hull down, and even at a lower br for a long time?

[Metaltank1990]

@Metaltank1990

The gimped pseudo-hellfire we have does not count.

See above. I would recommend familiarising yourself with what brimstone should be.

[PyroAddict]

@Flanker_Thunder

so u basically want the nation that hand-crafted the goddamn plane u bought from them to have worse planes that the nation that got the main idea of developing that plane?

Yes? I mean the US got the F-16A and it got screwed with the F-16AJ?

Same goes for Sweden when they got screwed with the SA JAS39C?

I can continue, but it’s clear that Gaijin is not allowing sweet Russia to get the same medicine blufor manufacturing nations have been dealing with for quite a while with the Su-30SM2 situation, it just shows.

@Flanker_Thunder

same for u and all the NATO mains.

LMAO. Russia has better fixed wing CAS (only one with supersonic stuff and modelled top down AGMs in-game), now has the best SACLOS SPAA and the tanks are mediocre at worst.

@Flanker_Thunder

NATO has very competent and even good vehicles/weaponry

While most of them are not due to overmodelling. The Leclerc’s case is just pathetic, they turned a tank that was closer to the higher echelons to be downright a glorified Ariete w/5s reload.

[Apollo_1641]

@Flanker_Thunder

they aren’t on Russia’s side either.

Yes but from your comments it seems like you cast all non-USSR nations under the same blanket by just saying “Nato” all the time.

These are different nations that can be matched in several ways, sometimes against USSR or sometimes with

[Flanker_Thunder]

if Gaijin gave u Brimstone (IR) for all european jets, and some kind of western supersonic missile, would u stop complaining about Kh-38?

[Metaltank1990]

@Flanker_Thunder

Brimstone (IR)

lol.

If gaijin added brimstone MMW i would, yes.

[_Pool]

Gaijin nerfed mavericks…
Bro, just stop, at this point you´re trying a backflip double whip to footjam.

[AlvisWisla]

Jagdpanzer IV is the first OP vehicle that comes to mind. Like 4+ years at 4.3 when it’s 4.7 equivalent.
BMPT was heavily nerfed a few days after they returned from holiday break.
First the BR, then the ammo storage was fixed. Whether it’s correct or not I don’t know, because I don’t know the characteristics of belted ammo volatility.

2S38 was only 9.7 for a few days as well. I know this one cause I bought it right away and it was 10.0 within a few days. And no, I don’t remember the 2S38 ever being impossible to frag cause I had a different experience facing them as stock grinding tools for my MBTs, I remember others having difficulties though and me providing any assistance I could.

[ItsOnyy]

Yes, it is the perfect time to ungimp Brimstones, Gaijin has zero excuses now. There is no “unfairness” now that we have this Pantsir with 48 interceptors.

[PyroAddict]

You’re eating the bait, that’s all I’m saying.

[ItsOnyy]

Yeah I know this guy, I just wanted to poke fun at them.

[Metaltank1990]

nah im taking any excuse to try to get peak AGM in

[Flanker_Thunder]

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[Flanker_Thunder]

@ItsOnyy

Yes, it is the perfect time to ungimp Brimstones, Gaijin has zero excuses now. There is no “unfairness” now that we have this Pantsir with 48 interceptors.

problem solved, somebody make a topic about Brimstone (IR), i will go and beg Gaijin to give european planes that deserved BS.

[Metaltank1990]

@Flanker_Thunder

are u talking about the turret basket? it has one irl, it just got modelled correctly.

Wow it sure is lucky russian tanks dont have a major protrusion attached to the horizontal drive which should obstruct its rotation if significantly damaged! Good thing it’s only an autoloader!

[Flanker_Thunder]

@PyroAddict

You’re eating the bait, that’s all I’m saying.

wdym? i actually agree.

@ItsOnyy

Yeah I know this guy, I just wanted to poke fun at them.

i’m talking seriously XD

[Flanker_Thunder]

@Metaltank1990

Wow it sure is lucky russian tanks dont have a major protrusion attached to the horizontal drive which should obstruct its rotation if significantly damaged! Good thing it’s only an autoloader!

1. u can’t put a turret basket in a russian tank for obvious reasons
2. if u want u can ask Gaijin for it, i won’t mind, i just want people that love to complain instead of getting good at the game to shut up, even if that means getting my favourite vehicles nerfed.

btw trunnions in the background without nulifying the ability of aiming vertically even when they’re attached to the vertical mechanisms (u can see it in the X-Ray):

[gfdsa_killer]

@AlvisWisla

Jagdpanzer IV is the first OP vehicle that comes to mind. Like 4+ years at 4.3 when it’s 4.7 equivalent.

Been a long time since I played the jagdpanzer, but i dont think its at the same level as the ISU-152

@AlvisWisla

Whether it’s correct or not I don’t know, because I don’t know the characteristics of belted ammo volatility

A video from inside of the BMPT, showed there was no protection between the 30mm ammo belt and the crew. No such thing as blowout pannel or external ammo.