Hit a tennis ball at twice the speed of sound…In game struggles with a glide bomb.
Yet we have this crap to deal with all to just glaze Russian egos.
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Note the wording too (plus what ASRAAM primary docs say) that it should be direct hitting the target, and in game struggles to get within 6m to proxy on a glide bomb.
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Well, you just now brought up the Aster-30.
So I’m going to assume you’re saying the 57e6m-e-m is supposed to be similar in preformance to the ASter-30
or the ASter-30 is supposed to be similar in preformance to the 57e6m-e-m
one of the two.
I was simply telling him that it shouldn’t be that much of a surprise based on what the missle is supposed too do.
Oh no it shouldn’t even be close, the aster 30 should be far longer range and is currently far shorter range.
Do you have any evidence to suggest 95Ya6M should be doing mach 3.3 at 40km?
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Gotcha
Not that I can currently find, but I’m assuming Gaijin is doing some bit of math to get that figure.
I don’t remember what the 57e6m hits at 20km, but 20 is it’s max range so it isn’t getting any faster.
Catastrophic error. They made it up.
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So I’m assuming you can do the math then at what something going 1700m/s would hit at 40km
not without a significant number of values which aren’t publically available, which is why gaijin made it up.
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Gaijin math is, interesting here.
This is how a different, 25km missile is treated when it comes to speed
Goes from Mach 3 to Mach 1 in 14km, 25s
And then takes another 65s to travel 11km.
This is purely for comparasion, as to why people are mad. Other missiles lose speed instantly, and are useless over ~7-15km, depending on the missile, while SM missile does this.
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And we come to the crux of the matter, Gaijin have just projected whatever values they want onto this system to make it the best in the game (Certainly the best because it does not have to suffer from the idiotic VLS style launchers used by other nations.) It’s SACLOS, it guides itself the missile has so much shrapnel and nothing can react in time.
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Missile is pointy…ASRAAM is round
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The base 95ya6 hits Mach 3 within 4.2 kilometers based on this screenshot after just 4 seconds. By the time it reaches 15kilometers it’s dropped to Mach 1.20.
This is the speed of the missle shooting upwards at an angle
Mach 4 at around 4 kilometers
At a distance of 30 kilometers the missile is at Mach 3.29
The missle was no longer within Mach 3 once it hit 36km and this is with absolutely 0 input to make it lose energy.
Shooting upwards where the air gets thinner, it maintaines Mach 4 at 36 kilometers with no account for any sort of manuvering.
The 95ya6 capped at Mach 3.26 shooting up at 4.6kms but it’s max range is roughly 18-20.
Granted how this variant is a hypersonic missile meant to take down hypersoni targets or munitions, the base 95ya6 would be inadequate if it’s dropping speed at 4.6kms and about to drop below Mach 3.
so whoever said it hits mach 3 at 36kilometers is not entirely correct, since against a manuvering target in combat conditions, it very likely will be at a slower speed.
Comparing the second screenshot to what I have. That typhoon is at 46kilometers and the missile has only traveled half that distance (assuming he was already manuvering) I’m not surprised it’s significantly dropped in speed But that drop in speed seems way too drastic for having only traveled half the distance to the Typhoon
Join us low tier enjoyers, russian bias has less influence in lower tiers.
Would be good if everyone started playing ww2 again and gaijin would have no option but to give us more ww2 tanks! :D
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Yes, you (or the guidance system) has to lead more to get to its target faster and avoid wasting energy
Missile speed, target distance, trajectory and speed all are factors when determining the optimal missile path and therefore the required amount of lead
The VT-1 (1,250 m/s) for example needs less lead than the MIM-146 (1,065 m/s)
The 9M311/9M311-1M (910 m/s), 9M331 (850 m/s) and HQ-17 (885 m/s) on the other hand need more lead than the MIM-146 (1,065m/s)
The VT-1 (1,250 m/s) and 95Ya6 (1,300 m/s) don’t need a lot of lead compared to the other SACLOS SAMs
And then you have the 95Ya6M at 1,700 m/s where you basically don’t even need to think about the lead
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Basically what I’m saying is that hypersonic speeds are considered to be somewhere around Mach 5. The missle barely cracks Mach 5 but maintains a reasonable amount of speed of Mach 4 at it’s max engagment distance (at higher altitudes)
As I said the missles purpose was to intercept hypersonic missles so mainting Mach 4 at higher altitudes make sense.
Yak 9 still exists
It’s never going to hit a Hypersonic missile in it’s terminal phase.
You need to hit them before that, although Russia do not truly have a Hypersonic missile. All of them are incapable of any kind of defensive manoeuvring.
Typhoon was not maneuvering at all, it was just slowly flying away.
Hypersonic missles are most vulnerable in their terminal phase…
but in the case with this missle, it can still attack it on it’s final approach