Same applies to Pantsir,if anything is perpendicular to you when its also close,the missile wont pull. Besides i´d be more worried about Mamba than Pantsir when it comes to being deadly.
Yes but you have the guns, ITO does not
Mamba is plagued with bugs (sometimes won’t fire) and the good old multipath, as well as incorrect loft trajectories and drag
That being said, it should of course be decompressed and go higher, especially if said problems are fixed
These 3-truck SAMs are usually Meh anyway, because you now have 3 trucks to manage, all as high as a 2 floor building on a 1.5x1.5km map
The War Thunder forum never fails to surprise me. There is actually a debate comparing the ITO 90M to the Pantsir-S1 — my God!
What’s next, comparing the Leopard 1A1 to the T-90M as well?
I honestly can’t believe this guy really thinks the ITO 90M is comparable to the Pantsir-S1.
Yes, it’s literally a Pantsir without gun turrets, with better missiles, but with a shorter range
Yeah, and the Roland is basically just a Pantsir-S1 on tracks, with worse missiles and shorter range.
And the M163 is also basically a Pantsir-S1 — except it has no missiles and only a cannon.
You guys come up with arguments from some truly extraordinary sources.
The GAZ-AAA is just a Pantsir without a tracking radar. The Skink is just a Pantsir but in Britain. Oh, and don’t forget the FlaRakRad, it’s just a Pantsir with the loading of a tank destroyer, and no gun or bulletproof glass that sometimes can deflect .50 cals.
This take genuinely shocked me, didn’t expect someone to say the Gripen A of all things should be 13.0
I think you may have misunderstood what I wrote.
(why it shouldn’t be 12.3)
Ohhh, my bad, I think I read this really late and didn’t really “Read” it, ya’know?
Yeah, I agree on most accounts, it’s a decent vehicle but 12.0 is a good place for it, only 4 mavs, and once again, Mavs (the dog doo speaks for itself) and 2 9m as your best FnF load out isn’t amazing
I usually bring 2 Mavs and 2 2000lb GBU for multi Sam, it’s definitely more of a support CAS than a dominant case plane
It definitely isn’t the best CAS at 12.0 / 12.3, but it’s a great multi-role… especially with the number of countermeasures you can take.
It can win against most planes in a dogfight, which is a lot more common in GRB because of how low you have to be to the ground to avoid SPAA.
Only issue then is that you can’t bring BOL with anything but Aim-9, tbh though, the BOL isn’t great anyway and the cm you get built in is usually enough