The Pantsir-S1 BR is too low and should be set at 12.7

Pantsir, being the strongest, still isn’t good enough to reliably beat any decent CAS pilot at 12.0+.

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Or just all the way up to 14.0, I don’t see why the level cap in ground and air have to be different.

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Why does the F-4E Phantom II fighter jet have to face off against the Pantsir air defense system?

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Because top tier ground isnt compressed, CAS is

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All planes have to do is slight turn to avoid rocket. It’s just that easy!! You can be unseen if fly ground level or 10-15 KM away and still able to destroy AAs and tanks.

While AA struggling to lock radar on plane, everything is even worst against helicopters. Helicopter should be closer than 4km to lock rocket.

I don’t understand, CAS players have everything to do what you want (i know there’s weak planes to, but not all planes are created to be used as CAS), while ground players have nothing to do to defend themselves.

Compression

Top tier ground is extremely compressed lol

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Every top tier tank can kill every other top tier tank, yes some have features that are better than others. But something will always be better than everything else, balance doesn’t exist anymore

Pantsir is ONLY good against people that think having Rafale or something and flying straight at Pantsir lobbing mavericks or HAMMERs is untouchable. Literally every plane that knows how to use its airframe can play with Pantsir since I know the game from both sides! And you dont even get anyy points fo shooting HAMMERS and AGMs down so most of the time you are doing Sisyphus´ job anyway and perhaps get lucky that the plane guy messes up and you get a shot at him

Basically forcing CAS to actually think while flying and not just get 6 free kills because reasons is the fault of Pantsir somehow…

All the pantsir cope is making me sick

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The Pantsir isn’t imbalanced, its the perfect tool against CAS. Other nations not having an equivalent is imbalanced

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I wouldn’t mind it, at least it would help to avoid some wallet warriors on my team lol

This is true at basically every BR? There are still giant gaps in capability between the best 12.0s and the worst 12.0s, and that’s just within a single BR without considering downtiers to 11.0…

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Israel still doesn’t have top-tier air defense vehicles.At 12.7,I could only use the 9.7 single-soldier air defense weapon to deal with modern combat aircraft.

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After the latest update, which allowed players to obtain SPAAs without grinding, there are now far too many Pantsir systems in battles that shoot down almost everything. The main issue is specifically the Pantsir-S1: it has 12 of the most powerful SAMs in the game and can guide up to four missiles simultaneously via radio command, even over terrain thanks to its radar.

The Pantsir used to be the strongest SPAA in the game already, but for some reason its BR is still 12.0. This has led to a situation where it appears in matches almost constantly, even if the enemy did not include it in their lineup. One Pantsir is already a problem — but when you face several at once, it turns into outright bullying of players from other nations.

Br change wont change problem you are facing.
It is just for giving pantsir as free SPAA instead TOR.
Just remove pantsir from free AA and replace it on tor, and all is just fine again

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Replace the “free” SPAA with the TOR

If you mean it can shoot behind hills no it can’t, it’s SACLOS meaning it needs to have a direct line of sight to the missiles

If the BR is increased, it will no longer be available to players who haven’t unlocked it, which will reduce the number of Pantsirs in battles. On top of that, aircraft and helicopters at lower BRs will finally be able to play normally without constant pressure from this SPAA.

No, it is capable of detecting targets and guiding missiles even through tree canopies, whereas with laser guidance, missile control is lost.