No reason for fuel load to be longer than the match itself
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RB isn’t the only gamemode we have. And even then, RB used to have the much better 1hr timers.
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Then allow 15 minute minimum fuel load for all planes in ARB instead of a percentage based limit
No, if we’re gonna be fair and allowing some planes to take a drastically lower fuel load, then everyone should get it.
Or just move the P-47N down. The P-39N is at 2.7 so I’m sure US mains can manage to bring this one down too.
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Or just be fair and let all planes take same fuel load.
How is this fair to lighter fighters that have sacrificed range for climb rate and maneuverability?
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Because all planes would get the same minimum fuel load, by definition is fair
It isn’t, because again some aircraft, being smaller and lesser armed, also sacrificed range to save on weight.
System is already fair, light fighters are light and heavy fighters are heavy.
Except heavy fighters are outperformed, and thus it isn’t fair right now. It’s especially bad for America who uses especially heavy paper, and large fuel loads that are nothing but a burdern in WT.
Maybe play them in a gamemode that suits their qualities instead of trying to shoehorn long range escort fighters into an eastern front-type of engagement with airfields within artillery range of each other.
Besides this, the P-47D-28 and M, and P-51s all perform very well. The P-47N was the extended range model for the longest of missions.
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or just allow them to function well in all gamemodes and not limit them to only EC.
Also the P-51Ds are worthless crap
Timers have nothing to do with fuel load.
It didn’t receive any buff from the weight reduction because they added an extra 20 minutes of fuel like I said before.
or maybe remove the %30 minimum fuel mass? Go in flight mode, use the localhost:8111 dev controls and reduce your fuel to be around 23 minutes. The P-47N becomes an exceptionally capable aircraft. Just like the P-47D-28 is.
Stop arguing to have an aircraft be viable in a singular niche gamemode or your wishlist gamemode that hasn’t been in the game for several years.
It makes you look like a nutter.
Except when you’re taking almost an hour worth of fuel. Yes it does matter. Fuel mass percentage screws over a lot of aircraft, so lower the minimum requirements and have the fuel mass match the actual in game match times.
But we do have these missions, so planes shouldn’t be forced to carry fuel as if they’re going across a country. Changing the minimum fuel load would affect quite literally everything, yes, but it would also breathe life into some otherwise not so good planes. Especially if they start on the ground. A plane doesn’t need 30 minutes of fuel if its only going to be flying for 10, and the game should reflect that.
Alternatively they could remove airfields and make it an air rearm/despawn point like they did in world war ages ago but require you to have a certain amount of fuel (say 30 minutes left) otherwise your aircraft would crash “on it’s way back to base” because it ran out of fuel.
I am not sure if you really understood what was written before.
The fuel load is measured in kg - every plane gets 30% of his maximum fuel as minimum fuel load.
The time (how long lasts this fuel) depends on fuel consumption / engine efficiency. So in your case the P-47N got a more efficient engine - subsequently the same amount of fuel (and it’s weight) lasts longer, therefore the time increased whilst the weight (which affects performance) remained the same.
You see a similar effect on other planes. The TT B7A2 has about 90 minutes min fuel, the BP B7A2 (with a more powerfull engine) about 60 minures - despite the actual weight of the minimum fuel load is exactly the same.
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Yes, I understand it clearly. So have it where the fuel mass will equal 20 minutes minimum of effective flight time on all aircraft. So every aircraft is going to have a different percentage, or make it where everyone has a blanket %5 minimum fuel mass.
Are you dense?
My very first reply here stated that no extra fuel was added to the plane. The only thing Gaijin has changed is the fuel consumption, meaning the same amount of fuel takes longer to get through.
The actual weight of min fuel has not changed. They didn’t add “an extra 20 minutes of fuel”. They made the 30 minutes takes 20 minutes more to be consumed by the engine.
The P-47N still got buffed.
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Except it did, and handles much better than before, especially in the energy retention department. As others say, the fuel weight didn’t actually go up, just that the engine is now much more fuel efficient. So no, the P-47N didn’t get nerfed, and actually got a HUGE flight performance buff.
Alright I’m taking 15min in my Ki-43-1 and Ki-61s.
I don’t think a P-47N ever took off with fuel for 10min.
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So change it from 30% to 10%.
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Great idea