I actually dont know how you got attached, i only added smin lol… not sure if it was from looking at another post as i had two posts open on my phone, sry about that.
I honestly doubt he would respond anyways… just a shame to see these modes fading away little by little with each update…
So… I’ve been playing Assault trying to upgrade my Panzer IV /70 (V), which has been idle in my garage for a long time.
It’s an exorcise in futility.
Bots are one-shotting my spg consistently, and my gun SAME AS ON PANTHER, can barely scratch any of the bots.
So my spg is BR 5.3, and it’s unlucky to get lumped in the 5.3-6.3 grouping. On the Maginot line what do I see coming… Lorraine 40t. What are they… BR 7.7? What the heck???
How am I supposed to be effective against those? My rank III spg vs rank V? That’s nuts.
(as an aside, when did they raise the BR of the Panzer IV/70? Always thought it was 4.7…
Assaults work like regular arcade battles. The highest BR vehicle in your line up is what bracket you play. So you must have something that is jumping you to the next tier up.
Learn to find where the cover is on the maps and you won’t get shot so much and don’t be the closest player to them. The bots will all aim at the closest or a flanking player.
First a quick note: 4.7 is the Jagdpanzer IV with the L/48 gun from the Panzer IV H, at least for the time I’ve been playing (16 months) the Guderian duck has been in the next bracket.
Don’t get me wrong, I just went to check whether the Lorraine 40 really is 7.7. You’re right, it is, and I have to admit that I don’t understand that. In the Assault lineup of bot tanks for Maginot and the BR 5.3-6.3 bracket it’s supposed to be the second from the bottom. Instead we have…
AMX-13 (light): 6.7
Lorraine 40 (medium): 7.7
AMX M4 (heavy): 6.7
ARL-44 (very heavy): 5.3
The corresponding lineup for Mozdok is…
Waffenträger: 5.7
Panther D: 5.7
Tiger I H: 5.7
Tiger II (P): 6.7
Kursk:
PT-76B: 5.3
T-34-85: 5.7
IS-1: 5.7
IS-2: 6.3 or 6.7 for the 1944 model (I think the latter is the one used).
Ardennes:
M41A1: 6.3
M4A3: 5.7
M26: 6.7
T26E1-E1: 6.7
When it comes to BR, the bot lineup on Maginot is very strange. If I had to guess, the 7.7 BR for the Lorraine 40 is due to the 100 mm gun and the post-war development date. (Funny enough, only two prototypes were ever made, same as the Narval bomber which keeps digging holes all over the base.) I don’t see the Lorraine that close to the level of a Leopard 1 with 8.0, though. Then again, I’m not making the decisions here.
Also, from my own experience (this is the bracket I play the most because I do like my Tiger 1 and Panther preset), the Lorraine 40 is a fairly easy kill from almost any direction, including the front. I always shoot 39 ammo, no trouble at all other than the ubiquitous swatting aside of my rounds with their gun barrels made from ultra-hardium, but all the French tanks do that. Frontal penetration is only a problem with the AMX M4 and ARL-44, if they’re not coming downhill at a steep angle, any shot to the upper front plate is a waste of time.
I completely agree with you and I therefore suggest that we also do a poll to see who would welcome this and it could come to the game in a new update, because PVE ground battles are really missing and it’s sad :(
I understand how the brackets work.
The Panzer IV/70 IS the highest tank currently in that garage. For assault, it happens to fall into the 5.3 - 6.3 range. So it’s the lowest possible BR within the range.
My main issue is that on Maginot map for assault in the 5.3-6.3 range, one of the waves of bots is the Lorraine 40t which happens to be BR 7.7. For vehicles at the lower end of the range that is a huge mis-match … 7.0 vs 5.3. (online wiki shows 7.7 but I think that is wrong)
Regarding the Lorraine 40t…
It might have weak armor for the BR, and on paper the panzer IV should be able to kill it easily, but fighting bots in assault is vastly different than fighting on paper for a number of reasons.
So Lorraine might not seem that much of a threat because of it’s relatively weak armor. But there are so many of them each wave, and they fire so quickly, and can pen almost anything in the 5.3-6.3 range that it really is a mismatch.
Overall I’ve found the “revised” assault to be way too frustrating. Time spent there is just a long boring grind where you die, and then do a suicide spawn in front of a wave of tanks that will kill you again in 3-5 seconds.
Gaijin has jumped the shark with assault IMO.
I know all that, since Assault is pretty much all I have played for the past 16 months. My total PvP time with everything is below 40 hours, but I’m rank 93 and my six tank crews are all on 143 - all in Assault mode. Admittedly I don’t play stiffies (that’s what I call the casemate tank destroyers and assault guns) because I have no interest in them, but I have seen enough of them in action to know that having to aim with the entire vehicle adds an extra level of difficulty. I’m also well aware of the bloody magic shots the bots keep doing, be that one-shot kills across the entire map, or punching 15 holes in one tank without it blowing up or the fourth crew member dying. Not to mention the Annie Oakley shots through windows or very narrow gaps.
For the duck it’s even worse, since one of the main advantages the real one had, the low firing height, doesn’t help much in Assault because the maps have next to no positions where this would help, and it’s too low to shoot from behind earthworks.
You’re not alone, though. Anything in this bracket will have a hole when hit by the L40t, especially with a bot doing the aiming. You’re also right in stating that Assault is complete crap at the moment. I haven’t won a match in 8 days now, before Hornet’s Sting a negative streak might last six rounds. This also means that in 8 days I managed to collect about 300 crew XP over six crews, which is ridiculous.
Honestly, the only recommendation I could give is not to play Maginot in this BR. I began to avoid it because I hate being bombed, and I hate respawning in a bomb crater, and I hate slalom-ing around bomb craters to get anywhere. I’m down to four out of six maps, and those aren’t fun because of the desync/latency issue which doesn’t even seem to be constant.
BR is calculated and changes based upon performance stats from human players. Pretty much all of the heavy tanks in all map tiers are “out” of the player BR bracket. 5.7 & 6.0 Tigers in 4.0-5.0 Mozdok and Japan etc. They are there to provide a challenge and to learn how to defeat heavy tanks (weak points, flank shots, etc.).
Then stop playing it and stop wasting everyone’s time whining about it?
When I first got into the game I played assault arcade fairly regularly until I learned not to keep spending SL on diminishing returns against waves of tanks with higher BR’s (and capabilities) than mine, combined with map locations that weren’t all that favorable to defense. I stopped playing assault and haven’t looked back. If you’re into it then more power to you and best of luck…assault arcade, as it stands, is something I’ll never play again.
Assault is like impossible to win now, ticket bleed too quick, bot has become a sweat that play WT 24/7
Half my team got wipe out by one single bot(there are other bots too so we didnt focus on it)
absolute insane
No one is forcing you to read or respond to my posts. Get bent.
I play assault to mod stock tanks up to a certain point before going P vs P.
Up until the last change or so, assault was hard, and even if you didn’t win, you were still able to accrue RPs toward modules.
But now it’s impossible to win, and trying to score enough points to research a module is just way too frustrating. Will certainly be playing it less and less.
How karmic. GL with your skill issues.
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You mean you got upset that you didn’t get the answer you wanted, or a shoulder to cry on from your vague and whiney posts? Yeah that.
Stat shaming! Oh Noes!
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You can’t use use AA to shoot it down?