It’s an event vehicle, it can grind events
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It’s funny seeing people complain here about what they get because the best thing about gambling is you don’t have to do it
You guys do it fully knowing what the rewards and probabilities are, what are you complaining about?
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fr could be like me, could just be decals and deco, genuinely all I’ve gotten from these crates since the Watermelon, has been 2 decals, and a deco
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I almost never bought any gambling boxes, I’m far too broke for that lol. The only thing letting me grind decently fast is the sl I occasionally get from daily rewards
It would instantly and extensively abused the moment you could trade/give items between players.
Same exact cause and reason why the referral system was changed, and tens of thousands of accounts were just banned for funneling all those referral rewards to a small handful of accounts.
Stona is not wrong here.
Having said that, you should know how I feel about duplicates.
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Part 1:
This is a TERRIBLE suggestion. I have talked with you multiple times about this. THIS is the reason why nothing changes, because you guys keep asking for for a PURE NON DUPLICATE SYSTEM.
This is never going to happen, and the Devs and Community Managers will keep ignoring us because you guys keep suggesting terrible ideas like this. I am writing up yet another long post, and quoting my old posts where I detail why this is such a horrid idea.
If you guys want ANY chance of a better system, stop advocating for a pure non duplicate system, without being paired with another change, such as premium time. The change will either be WORSE, or the odds will go WAY WAY WAY down if they changed to a simple non duplicate system.
I have to make coffee. I just woke up. I wish you would not have used up Stona’s replies by suggesting this horrid system yet again.
Part 2:
I have already replied and talked with you about this multiple times, I replied to you at the top of my quote below. STOP suggesting this horrible idea! You are wasting the community manager’s time, and preventing us from getting a better system someday!
Please Actually READ ALL of my message below. I keep asking you to read EVERYTHING that I have written abvout this subject, but you keep suggesting this horrible idea every time!
Link to the message below, from an old SL Crate thread: The Horseshoe Pouch! - #265 by SilentTracker
Full message copy+pasted below
The quotes were not working properly, so I am just going to copy+paste the entire message yet again so @UniqueScorpions-live can hopefully actually read it this time:
I have gone over this concept ad nauseam. This is one step away from direct choice of vehicle. The company is NEVER going to make a change to non duplicates without lowering the odds, or requiring something extra, like only for Premium Account players.
Have you read any of my previous in depth posts on why this idea will never be accepted by the company?
Your suggestion is #1 on my list below. I have been trying for years now to get everyone on the same page instead of everyone making the same suggestion over and over again. It will simply never happen, and it is a waste of time to even debate this suggestion any further. They would have changed it years ago if they considered it an acceptable change.
My previous thoughts on this subject:
Link: The Festive Cupcake for Silver Lions! - #37 by SilentTracker
Imo, there are only 4 possible options, with #1 and #4 having almost 0% of ever happening. I consider it a complete waste of time to even try and advovate for #1 or #4:
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Change to NO duplicates, but lower the odds of any vehicle from 0.5% to something like 0.05%. The company would never change to no duplicates without also lowering the odds. (I do NOT advocate for this as you would now need ~2,000 boxes to HOPE to have a chance, instead of “only” ~200 boxes. Spending 120 Million SL’s instead of 12 Million SL’s for a chance at one vehicle.)
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Change to NO duplicates with the same odds, but only allow it for players with 180 days+ or even 365 days+ of premium time. ( This would be my preference, as it would allow a reasonably priced route for collectors to get NO duplicates, while also generating more stable income for Gaijin. A true win/win imo.)
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Change the 1m SL’s for duplicates to 12m SL’s, which by the odds, would give you enough SL’s to “get” another vehicle. (I think this route is bad though, as it would flood the market with other prizes which would dilute everything even more. I do not advocate for this option.)
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Changing to DIRECT CHOICE of vehicle is 100% UNTENABLE as they would lower the odds to be like the main prize odds @ 0.001%. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, just NO.
Links to my previous posts about duplicates, for anyone super interested:
Math and reasons why a change to no duplicates without a Premium Time requirement is a bad concept (or even worse, direct choice):
The Travel Suitcase! - #196 by SilentTracker
“Main” post from the old Travel Suitcase thread. (Some duplicate/recursive info from me, but linking here in case anyone wants to read ALL my previous messages)
The Travel Suitcase! - #163 by SilentTracker
New Suggestion which has a slight chance of being accepted by the company:
Again, this is the ONLY suggestion I have seen in years that has the slightest chance of being accepted (other than a Premium Time requirement, which I have advocated for over the years. But also still not accepted, nor has there been a response from the Devs/Company either lol.)
My Reply to the suggestion above:
Second new interesting suggestion:
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Part 1:
@Stona_WT , we post over and over about how bad the duplicate system is. I have been posting for the last two years in each of the SL Crate event threads. It is a flawed system, especially for players who only need a small number of vehicles still.
The more vehicles you get, the higher your odds are to only get duplicates, and not see another vehicle that you do not have. This IS a bad system. Think about it. The players who have been playing the longest, who have the most vehicles, have the smallest chance of getting that last vehicle or two.
I have read testimonies from many many long time players who have simply given up trying because it is effectively impossible to obtain the final vehicles they need.
Please read my post above: The Nuclear Football! - #534 by SilentTracker
I know it is a lot of writing, but I have been trying to communicate about this issue for years now. I have put a lot of thought into ways to correct the current duplicate system, and I do NOT suggest changing to a simple “no duplicate” system.
And read this post showing how many people DESPISE the current duplicate system:
Part 2:
No, we do not expect for anything to be guaranteed, but like I said above, the more vehicles you get, the LOWER your chances of getting another vehicle that is not a duplicate. This system PUNISHES long time players who have lots of vehicles already.
Especially for the super rare “direct to account” vehicles. These players cannot even get them from the market or any other source. Long time players should be rewarded for the dedication and efforts, not punished with lower and lower chances the more vehicles that they get.
This is the issue @Stona_WT. The current system punishes the most dedicated players. It is backwards. There absolutely needs to be an adjustment:
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The way I was thinking of it was to base it off of rarity of the vehicle (and these are just spitball ideas) whereas uncommon duplicates give $250k SL but uncommon vehicles are more common to pull.rare vehicle duplicates give $500k SL and the you are still get 1 million SL for the ultra rares.
But coupons are still the same drop rate as they are now because they can be traded
I know gaijan likes to use the faces of the six-sided die so maybe make the uncommons a 3 the rares a 2 and the ultra rares stay at 1
This wouldn’t solve anything. You would still be getting a nearly worthless 1m SL’s for burning 12m-15m SL’s. Please read my posts above. Yes, they are long. I have been trying for years to advocate for a better system. If everyone keeps suggesting bad ideas, nothing will ever change.
Please read each and every word I posted above. It is worth every minute of your time. Thank you.
Reply #1: The Nuclear Football! - #534 by SilentTracker
Reply #2: The Nuclear Football! - #535 by SilentTracker
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Look Man, we have different ideas, you cannot call mine bad purely because you disagree.
All ideas are good.
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No, you obviously still did not read what I wrote. Your idea is 100% bad and a waste of everyone’s time:
READ PLEASE for the love of God! THAT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
Gaijin will NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS change to NO duplicates WITHOUT ALSO LOWERING THE ODDS.
If you keep pushing for this STUPID idea you are going to get secondary consequences that EVERYONE will hate.
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This was just unnecessarily rude…
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No, it isn’t rude. You keep wasting everyone’s time by suggesting this stupid idea over and over, every time. And this time you wasted the very small amount of responses that we ever get from the community managers.
They blew you off. They told you it was stupid too. They ignored you. Again, you keep wasting everyone’s time with that dumb suggestion.
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Dude who pissed in your coffee? Your being extremely abrasive and rude because I have my own way of thinking?
That wouldn’t be true. Some ideas are objectively terrible sometimes.
But I don’t see anything wrong with your idea though
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Well yes some ideas can be terrible… like jumping into an volcano, but I was referring to reasonable ideas.
dude, come on! @SilentTracker just wrote us the best solution! If you want a change for duplicate, read his text! It cant be that reading is difficult! w Silenttracker for his wonderful idea!
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No, I am pissed at you from YEARS of experience of you wasting time.
LOOK! Stona BLEW YOU OFF. Why are you so dense that you cannot see that your “idea” is pointless?
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You guys are never going to get anything changed by trying to push that horrible idea over and over:
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