I have better examples:
Fair
I came back to the game after those additions and during my time it was the Russian time. Charges in the bustles that didn’t explode with 100% guarantee, anti-everything vikhrs etc.
I have more but I think this is enough.
I’ve got from the start you have no idea what you talk about
Have no intention to discuss something with
A) don’t play that much
B) missing basic knowledge
I know you would post these. I just had this today and I don’t save every each of them. Maybe on reddit I saw abrams bulkhead sending dart with ricochet inside of hull dealing almost no damage
Lmao, perfectly described yourself.
Yeah, so much of new volumetric Abrams and non volumetric Abrams have you played?
Like I understood from the start he doesn’t know what he talks about. Volumetric+stronger hull help a lot against MBTs too. Any person who plays top tier, especially old/new abrams, will notice the difference. Saying it’s just against autocanons is just a lie from his head
In his defense, the volumetric is only in the turret and ring. On the hull, its the new FCS and driver compartment that soaks spall leading to Abrams sustaining minimal damage and being able to fire back.
+the fuel tank bulkheads randomly ricocheting APFSDS.
If you think that’s volumetric it’s just about randomly snapping shots than it’s just further proves me I was right

However on the other hand you did say volumetric Abrams, which is a blanket term referring to M1A1, M1A2 Trophy, M1A2 SEPv3, and the British Abramses. Saying they take more punishment than non-volumetric Abrams is objectively correct. The remodeling made them tankier due to spall soaking insides plus stronger LFP on v3 producing less spall.
Deflection number 3 and of course a goalpost moving attempt.
Nope, I’ll just be here waiting, watching you squirm.
- Has leopoard 2 series
- WR only went up by 3%
lmao
That is supreme cope and not a argument.
I’ll be waiting here for you to actually unlock before taking it seriously when you say “it adds nothing”.
Oh, must look similar to your war thunder gameplay no? Although I would probably describe your gameplay more as fodder or just existing instead of playing.
Besides the 2A7s/122s most of the 12.0+ Leo 2 series have mostly become irrelevant by the Abrams lol, especially when all the Abrams are getting the volumetric this update.
You really only have one argument don’t you, yawn.
Oh I would absolutely love for you to explain to me what boons the 2A7V lacks that the Sep V3 sports.
I would love for you to read that post again, here I’ll highlight the important bit:
And for the 2A7V vs SEPv3. The 2A7V is better for less skilled players (aka people like you) due to it’s better hull armor and spall liners, but the SEPv3 is better for skilled players due to it’s reload and better overall handling of the vehicle.
The 2A7V is part of the series you cannot omit it.
There we are I knew you would crutch on the reload being the only relevant factor when every other part of the tank is superior, and no the 2A7V has superior vehicle handling characteristics across the board.
It has best in class gun handling, only on par with other leopards and the T-90Ms, it has a superior PWTR at 22 HP/T vs the V3’s 21 HP/T combined with a superior gunner’s primary sight mag and gen 3 thermals over the V3’s gen 2s.
Combine that with the still current reigning best dart and actual usable hull armor this is comical cope.
I also find your comment that the 2A7V is better for low skilled players comical given that would mean you agree with my previous statement making fun of БЕИ claiming German mains are superior quality players.

