RNG + with the sheer amount of firepower you have it’s easy to kill someone that pushes you on reload.
Literally no better than Tiger 2
Alongside with Mi-24/35
Literally just armored sherman with subpar firepower
M4A3 105 used to sit at 2.7, and upon introduction was able to one-shot anything, no matter where the shot landed.
And I do genuinely mean no matter where the shot landed. It absolutely murdered Pz III M’s, T-34 (1940)'s, etc. etc. and I’m still on a 11 - 1 K/D ratio from those days.
Calliope benefited from the absolutely bonkers overperformance of rockets back in the day, it also could not be ammo racked when shot in the rocket racks.
You could place the entire vehicle behind cover and spam rockets that would one-shot even a Maus if it landed on the turret front.
AH-1Z was the first truly ridiculously OP Heli CAS the game got, you frequently saw players with 90-100% winrates in the thing as they utterly stomped everything.
T14 is still a competent vehicle, but on release it was 4.3, that’s back when Pz IV’s were still 4.3 as well and the T14 murdered those.
Sergeant York and other US SPAA benefited from the stupid bug where shells would penetrate even heavy tanks, but they also had some of the best SPAA performance in their respective BR ranges, especially the York with it’s fused shells.
T29 was immune to being ammo racked on release and had cracked survivability, not to mention it being 6.7 back then whilst just being a superior Tiger II SLA at the same BR.
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US main levels of mental gymnastics to pretend that the US has only ever gotten 2 overpowered or dominant vehicles.
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I don’t recal disregarding every example you’ve provided, the one doing mental gymnastics to apply “US main” tag is you.
To add:
FJ4B VMF (Ground)
M1A1
M4A1 75
T26E5
F-5 Tigers
F-4E
Merkava Mk.1
Merkava Mk.2
Merkava Mk.3
Arguably the XM800T
Arguably the A-1H in Ground
A-10C and A
AGS
HSTV-L? (Around on release, didn’t really play back then, this is hearsay)
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I didn’t say you are a US main, I just stated that you do similar levels of gymnastics as a US main would to deny as many dominant/overpowered US as possible.
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Whataboutism.
Whataboutism.
Lack of knowledge.
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Another example is the M4A3E2 being 4.7 for a significant amount of time. Wasn’t the M18 also really low back then?
Also a lot of the US 4th gen planes so far have been between strong and dominant.
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I remembered some more. F2G-1, XM803, YAH-64, AH-64E (Along with other LDIRCM Helis), M551 76, and the A-4E (Ground).
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Ok so you are allowed to call out US being overpowered because there was heli with no missile SPAA to counter it, but Russia at literally the same update can’t be because this is “whataboutism”, noted.
We are discussing outstanding examples of trully overpowered cases with no contest. If 2 or more nations have “overpowered” options at the same time then we can’t talk about single nation supremacy don’t we?
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Never said that. By this logic you can’t call Mi-28NM overpowered because AH-64E was released with it. Just because one thing is overpowered, doesn’t mean another OP thing cancels it out. Though from my knowledge the AH-1Z was much more dominant than the RU Helis.
We’re discussing OP US vehicles. I didn’t see anyone specify this.
Again I’m not saying it cancels out the specific vehicle being overpowered, I’m saying that if enemy has ovepowered vehicle too we can’t really say any of them is favored in that case. F-14 had no competition thats why it is a good example and T29 or AH-1Z are not.
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This really just makes no sense. T26E5 and Tiger II Sla were, and still are, INCREDIBLY oppressive against 5.7s. Just because both sides have an OP vehicle doesn’t mean they aren’t both OP. And we are discussing OP vehicles, not favorability.
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Well if we are now taking downtiers into account then whole convo looses any meaning because then there are literally hundreds of individual overpowered cases when they are in downtier. It is BR compression issue not that individual vehicles are much better than peers.
You have to take into account the +1 and -1 BR spread when talking about the balance of a vehicle??? There is no “at-BR” matches in WarThunder. BMPT at 10.3 was primarily OP because it could face nine point three. Just because a 2A4 curbstomped it in a frontal engagement doesn’t mean it wasn’t oppressive?
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Disagree, we definitely need to defirintiate vehicles that are problematic due to BR compression and vehicles that are problematic because they are simply outmatch anything.
F-14 was broken regardless of the dowtier, Ka-50s were broken regardles of downtier. Those are clearly outstanding cases that can’t be thrown in the same pile as vehicles that can be fixed simply by going up in BR.
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That’s just not true. All volumetric abrams survive and forgive mistakes more often. With Sepv3 it goes even harder as stronger lfp decreases generated spall and creates situations like these
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You were the one saying that the US is treated poorly in this game and that they rarely receive overpowered stuff.
Just because the Mi-35 was in the same position doesn’t mean the AH-1Z wasn’t still overpowered.
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Literally no shot in your vid suffered volumetric and was nowhere hear the turret ring or turret. The first shot had such little effect because you shot the deepest part of the fuel tank meaning spall cone started much deeper inside the tank not having enough distance to spred to cover crew to the left, also basket ate some spall.
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