AAM 4 is categorized as being a 100km misile only(IRL) i don’t see where the claim it should get a better range even comes from. If in games it seem to lack range it’s only due to gaijin code making it not keep energy during its flight.
PL12 is not even that nerfed as it should be at best a 100km missile and suffer from the same energy retention problem as AAM4.
And finally what a lot of people don’t seem to realize is that MICA buff is not about “Making it OP” or that it’s an energy retention fix, no. MICA is literally limited to 50km of range when it should be 80km when looking at MICA data and code the missile is legitimately limited to 50km of maximum range it will actually explode when it reaches this limit the fix is not just about giving MICA more range it’s about removing an immaginary limit placed by gaijin that limits the missile without that limit MICA could go about 60km of range which would make people that want that buff already extremely happy.
this is a completely valid argument
The PL-12 is notably nerfed because it currently uses the export SD-10 performance metrics. I can’t speak for AAM-4.
SD-10 is actually a missile developed earlier than PL-12. The dimensions of the two missiles are actually slightly different, the booster stage as well.
But if Gaijin were not to do anything to the PL-12, then do you think a J-10A or J-11B fighting an AIM-120C-5-carrying F-15E and now potentially the Eurofighter is a fair matchup?
PL-12A is a thing and Gaijin could’ve totally added it, the specifications point to ~120km range.
That’s not my problem read the title this thread is about MICA feel free to make a PL12 buff thread. Also no i don’t think it’s a fair matchup so go fight for your cause like i am don’t do it in a thread that is no dedicated to it.
Yet French equipment is used all over the world, while American equipment is used primarily in western Europe. Sounds like everyone loves American stuff, so explain why everyone else uses French and Russian stuff (excluding Eurofighters in some places and Chinese stuff in Pakistan).
F-15’s in Asia, F-16’s everywhere, A-4’s, hornets in Asia, not to mention the Browning M2HB .50, UH-1’s, F-4’s also nearly everywhere, F-35’s across the world, 5.56, 7.62, Bushmaster chain guns, M134’s, AR-15 and all its derivatives, Patton tanks, Sherman’s, Abrams in some countries across world, M60, Chinook, Blackhawk (Chinese even copied it lol), American radars, engines, HMMW, jeep, JLTV, MRAPs, M113, MIM-23, Patriots, standard missiles, ESSM’s, Phalanx CIWS, AIM-120, AIM-7, AIM-9, AGM-65, the glorious JDAM, Paveway bombs, AGM-88, JASSM, Tomohawks, AGM-84, American targeting pods, American ammunition, C-130, C-47, C-17, A-37, OV-10, American maritime and AWACS aircraft
The only reason they use French and Russian stuff is because US won’t sell or won’t sell any of the higher end stuff that actually is counterpart to Rafale or they’re just broke. Lets not forget Pakistan used F-16’s and had an AH-1Z order made but cancelled bc politics
Threads regarding anything even remotely related to Rafale get invaded by EFT muppets.
It would also lead to some energy retention improvements, because currently it is degraded in that capacity, as well as hard limited to 50.
Turns out when you try to act like the victim while having the objective best jet in the game, people don’t roll on their bellies for it. (except for Gaijin apparantly)
Thread going full off topic because 3 guys are obligated to debate which country between US and France is best weapon seller in the world. This is a thread for a MICA buff these talk have nothing to do here.
Muh. AMRAAM GONNA BE OP! NOOOO
Gaijin’s honest reaction:
Everything making the C-5 is not in the C-5
yep only better than the C at 20km + now and even then not by very much
Forced reliance and they left equipment there. Otherwise Israel just has a hand in American dealings (they already have a history if stealing stuff like the Mirage III), Saudi Arabia just wants it because they get money out of it, and NATO reliance.
Also, if it was so good, the Soviets would have just copied it in general. They took the philosophy, but that’s like saying that Americans are Evil Windmill Germans because they copied and pasted multiple German weapons (STG-44 to M-16 and FG-42 to M-60 if I remember correctly), and that Americans were in love with the monarchy (Gewehr 98 to M1903)
are you saying that an over 40% market share means nothing?
stg 44 and m16 are seperate, iirc it was mg42 to m60. but i only said design philosophy, i dont see where you get the “soviets loving US govt/military” and german comparisons from
Asian countries are not forced and the weapons were not left behind in singapore, malaysia, etc.
anyways, can we at least agree MICA buff makes sense since realism is generally a good thing for weaponry?
Bug report it instead of complaining here.
Yeah, it makes sense. I’m just tired of hearing “American number one” as a justification for America getting unnecessary buffs.
That’s funny because we’re in a complaint thread right now and I don’t think it’s for the AMRAAM…
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Good luck actually getting it accepted.
Even if it gets acceped it will need at least 1 year until fix
Well, if you think that’s not realistic, do a bug report instead of cope? Or maybe arguing using your real account?