Right, it’s easy to say things that sounds good until more questions are asked. What does similar capabilities mean in this instance? Is Typhoon getting AIM-120C “similar capabilities”? What does it look like to you?
To be honest with you I think this would be the case, if the C-5 gets added with the seeker it has now it will still be easy enough to notch at the start of the match or in longer ranges in general. So my point is, for the current meta, the C-5 will at best annoy you for making you hit defensive maneuvers a bit earlier, then guess what, furball, where rafale would still shine like it is doing now.
When I say “similar capabilities,” I’m talking about aircraft that can match the Rafale in key performance areas like radar, missiles, agility, and survivability. An example would be something like the EFT with the ASRAAM or an F-16V with the C5. The problem is the Eurofighter is not only missing that, but also not missing radar functionality. So when the Typhoon loses it’s BVR chances, the Rafale can just keep all it’s speed and dominate within 20km. That’s not just theory. It’s how matches have always played out when you deny an overpowered vehicle a counter when newer top tiers are added. Same thing happened with the Gripen and F-14A. But now, this is on a whole difference scale, as we’ve gone from bomber missiles → Aim-9M and INF flares → Complete and utter dominance in every conceivable characteristic.
Okay yes, but can you continue down this train of thought? If you predict that the Rafale will still be dominating when Typhoon gets C5, then would this mean your personal belief is that the MICA EM shouldn’t be fully fixed until AIM-120D is added?
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So in this case you believe it may be needed for a Eurofighter with IIR missile such as ASRAAM to be added before the MICA EM can be fully fixed?
So because French players have skill, they need to be punished?
Yes
I support the fix, if it means the missile becomes more realistic and it is a direct counterpart to what’s getting added. Even if it ends up still being better than the 120 C-5 carriers.
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French players do not have skill for performing in the Rafale. The Rafale is the most hand held plane in the game. Let’s not act dumb here.
Yes, because that’s similar capability. But as you chose to leave out, the Typhoon also needs to radar fixed to correctly simulate it’s BVR advantage. It doesn’t even need the C-5.
Sorry Mikey that your “America Number 1” planes are trash. Figures, since the US forces their equipment on other people, while people willingly buy French all over the world. Fact is, French planes are better, they even beat the F-22.
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I appreciate your response. Even if the radar gets fixed and AIM-120C-5 is added to the Typhoon, your belief to my understanding, correct me if I’m wrong, is that Typhoon also needs ASRAAM to be on the same level of Rafale with fixed MICA EM.
Just need @MythicPi to also give out his takes as well.
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We will most likely end up with mica ir, iris-t, asraam, aim9x and stuff by december at this rate, the new spaa seems a good way to test those missiles.
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Because air rb is seen as a vehicle to spade aircraft for mixed battles.
So even new players are opting to fly low, bomb a base or a convoy when they unlock GPU-39 maybe get a 9M kill die and join a new game.
Typhoon needs its Radar fixed and its pre nerf acceleration and high altitude performance/turning cranking and not going from mach 1.7 to 1.0- 0.9 would be nice.
The C would be great but as always I would want Radar and fm fixes instead of a new missile to paper over the cracks
LMAO it’s not hand held (More than 90 reports are open on it and it’s lacking a hell lot of features and capabilities) it’s just that good; any plane will seem lackluster compared to Rafale until they add VLO Fighters and BVRAAMs of 200km+ range and even then… Rafale has good chances of still being very good at BVR while being insane at close ranges.
You are just coping here players in game just behave that bad they know they shouldn’t get close to a Rafale or let a Rafale get close to them yet they still go for furballs like in 2022.
A famous saying tells the following : “Adapt, Improvise, Overcome”
And Gaijin players do the following : “Whine, Cry to Powercreep, Never Improve”
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It’s still pretty handheld. The drag buff was just stupid. Mach 2 with a full weapons load despite Dassault themselves stating top speed of 1.8 and I’m assuming that’s clean or with wingtip and fuselage pylons.
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Isn’t that the same for everyone ? From what i remember drag is badly modelled for 100% of the planes when you have missiles / bombs and stuff.
It’s just because gaijin physics are too limited. To match datapoints they had to proceed that way. People complain about it just because no other plane was fixed that way but if Gaijin decided to fix EFT its FM and Accel curves would be very stupid too.
What Dassault say doesn’t actually reflect the true capabilities of the Aircraft. Dassault never clearly stated Rafale can do a Cobra or reach very high AOA YET there is valid and credible sources made during Rafale test campaigns that argue that Rafale can reach stupids AOA. And as Oceanfish just said drag for supsended armament is that badly/not modelled.
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There’s the difference between me and you. You’re a cringe nationalist who gets on his knees for France. I, on the other hand, don’t really care about what nation gets what. I only care about cool fighter jets (with the F-14 being my favorite).
Quit the cringelord superiority complex. It makes your side look even more pathetic.
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