The maus

Technically yes but before the BR decompression it was a fantastic example of Late WW2 technology being eclipsed by late cold war technology there was no reason for those two things to meet eachother.

The BR decompression was very good but 8.7 still needs work, you can’t push it up further though until more top end decompression happens.

I’ll take BR decompression for a thousand Alex.

TBF The Maus is an example of a wonderwaffen that should be only delt with by CAS, because that would have been its historical context.

Yes but interestingly enough that logic doesn’t seem to apply to the Obj 279 which is way harder to balance.

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I didn’t realise the OBJ 279 was added to the tech tree, last I saw it was a once off event vehicle that doesn’t keep coming back.

I don’t understand why people go on about the obj. No one has trouble killing me in the thing and I don’t find them hard to kill either. They have the same weak spots Russian main battle tanks have on the turret and side on a weak turret ring

I use the Maus a lot in SB, and a fair bit in RB. I’m not a great player but I still get good results with it. That tells me that the vehicle is honestly really competitive at 7.7. You also get many more full downtiers than usual at that BR.

I know many people disagree, but I think the Maus is an excellent tank in game, and I’d go so far as to say that it could easily be tech tree again. In a full downtier, it’s very strong but not unstoppable, and in a full uptier, it’s outmatched but not hopeless. Which is pretty much the standard for heavies in this game.

People need to learn how the Maus plays, if they want to use it. Personally, I find that it requires a complete mental switch from most other vehicles I play… it’s the one where I feel there is the smallest amount of “transferable skills” that you develop playing anything in Ground RB. You kind of need to create a bespoke style to use the Maus. For that reason alone I find it very interesting to play.

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It’s permanently on the market so it’s not really a once off vehicle.

Sure it has weakspots, but the Maus have the exact same and even bigger ones. At it’s BR, just any tank can pen the turret cheeks.

It’s on the market because people are selling it from the once off event… How much is it going for again?

Way less then the AMX Surblindé for example.

The point is not to discuss the 279, the point is that everything you said with it being killable and all can also be said about the Maus.
I never had a hard time dealing with a Maus since in order to shoot at you it exposes its huge weakspots. If any tank at your BR can pen a super heavy, then maybe it should go down a bit.

No the point is you said the same rules don’t apply to the 279 and they do. Even more so because it was a once off vehicle while the maus was in the tech tree for years and comes back every Christmas.

Say it goes to 7.3 and gets down tiered to 6.3, how many tanks can kill it even if it’s not angled

It must be said however that the overall existing supply is not permanently stuck at the original event number. A few more drop every now and then, they did with the ice cream buckets, which lowered the price a bit as one would expect.

Maus does badly in uptier…

Churchill VII faces Panther one step up and OHK from front by 3.3 mediums, using a gun that can’t reliably damage anything.

How about start balancing from the bottom up and not past the middle BRs (on a tank hidden because of it not fitting in WT)?

6.3 is a bit too low indeed so instead of lowering its BR, the solution would be to limit the uptiers because let’s be honnest, with a Maus you face missiles launchers and jet way more often than you face IS-2s.
Maybe limit it to 8.0 or .3 so it doesn’t feel useless as often.

Give superheavy tanks/SPGs a distinct class from normal heavy tanks, with their own spawn cost. Maus can be ok even at 7.0, if it required something like 500 SP to spawn. In late game, It’s gonna get bombed anyway before it leaves the spawn, lmao.

Which isn’t a mechanic and won’t be, hense why the vehicle was removed from the tree. Its impossible to balance

Isn’t for now but could be a good idea for a lot of tanks, mostly the slow and heavy ones that only rely on armour.
Not sure why you say it won’t be but I sure hope it happens one day.

Again how many 6.0 in every nation could kill it? Does more spawn points change how hard it would be to kill at 6.0?

Because people ha e literally been asking g for it for about 10 years now and they still deny it being introduced.

hope gives life, they also said that they wouldn’t add modern tech so we never know …

Even if there are many vehicles who can destroy the Maus, they are mostly light armored and would die long before the Maus enter the battle zone.

And that worked really well didn’t it? 🤣