The Maus should be BR (7.0) The Logical Compromise

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Not asking for 6.7 fixes everything without making it OP.

Why 7.7 is dead:

At 7.7 the Maus sees 8.7 in 90% of its games.

Stabilized APFSDS (T-55AM-1, M60A1 AOS, Chieftain)

2nd gen ATGMs (IT-1, RakJPz 2 HOT, Swingfire)

HEAT-FS that pens 400mm from every angle

Its armor goes from “strong but has weakspots” to “doesn’t exist.” You are a 188-ton heavy with no armor and 20 km/h top speed.

Why 7.0 works:

At 7.0, max uptier is 8.0. That is HUGE:

You mostly avoid APFSDS and ATGMs

You still face HEAT-FS (Leopard 1, M60, Ikv 91, RU 251) so you are NOT invincible

In a 6.0-7.0 downtier you actually get to be a heavy tank for once

Your weakspots - turret face 240mm, lower front 200mm, side 185mm - are still easy pens for 6.0-7.0 tanks like T-34-100, M-51, British APDS, etc.

It stays balanced because:

Size: Still the biggest target in game, free kill for CAS

Mobility: Still 20 km/h, can’t cap, can’t flank, can’t retreat

Reload: 19.2s ace - a T-32 at 7.0 reloads twice as fast

No stab, no LRF - everyone at 7.0-8.0 has better gun handling

Compare to other 7.0 heavies:

T-32: smaller, faster, better reload, harder turret

IS-3: faster, better armor profile

Conqueror at 7.3: better gun, better armor

Maus at 7.0 would be slower than all of them but have more raw armor sometimes. That’s a fair trade.

7.0 makes it playable, not broken. 6.7 might be too much, 7.7 is unplayable, 7.0 is right in the middle.

It would finally be a fun event vehicle again instead of a hangar decoration.

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i’m gonna be honest, i think the maus is just one of those things that’s kinda impossible to put in a good spot, too low and very few vehicles can deal with it, too high and everything wipes it off the face of the earth, but even at 7.0 yes its got a good gun, but its slow, and a player that knows what they are doing (say a T26E1-1 player with APCR) can easily kill it and then this whole conversation would start all over again

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The Maus is perfect where it is.

Most things (other than HE slingers, M41s and Soviet 122s) cannot pen it in a downtier, whilst it is really bad in an uptier.

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The difference is at 7.0 it would at least sometimes get to be a heavy tank in a downtier, instead of being useless 100% of the time. That’s how heavies like the Jumbo and Tiger Il work too.

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Your entire argument hinges on the full uptier card. That simply does not apply when BRs are as compressed as they are. Besides, you don’t point out how undertiered it would be at 7.0. Your argument then says “but 8.0 full uptier makes it killable” which is stupid. For it to be balanced it needs to face vehicles on even footing. So. What this sounds like is…compression and what we need to get is decompression, not further compressing the game. Decompression. NEXT!

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You do realize theirs already like three threads about lowering the Maus br though right?

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The more the merrier

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Problem of uptiers is not unique to maus

Theres a quite few tanks that wouldnt be able to kill maus even side on.

Certainly a choice of argument here, WW2 tank doesnt get LRF nor stab.

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This is entirely the reason the maus got removed in the first place ffs. It cannot be balanced normally.