Oh yeah, I def agree that HESH of all things should probably not work with glancing blows like that. But the issue currently is that even with direct hits, even to weak armor spots, very very often it does literally 0 damage. But when an HE and/or HEAT shell of 50%-25% of the TNT equivalent fill would at least do some sort of damage. I re test the HESH rounds in a test drive every so often, and it has just been the same randomly doing 0 damage on stationary targets with direct/perfect hits. Even with the FV4005 's HESH rounds, sometimes they just do absolutely nothing on perfect shots. To be fair, the FV4005’s rounds do tend to work a bit better than the M728 CEV’s and Centurion Mk.5 AVRE’s shells, HOWEVER, those 2 have almost the same TNT eq as the FV4005’s rounds, but seem to work well less than half the time.
Yeah, I’m not saying its wrong. Only that the “nothing” part is right. Against RHA, the pen should be pretty much ∞. Its designed to “penetrate” meters of concrete.
The FV’s HESH should really only be better because it has much faster n flatter trajectory.
This thing and the AVRE are literally the same vehicle spec wise? if anything they should be equally bad lol maybe the M728 slightly worse because of that stupidly huge capula
They are the same BR’s and have the same SL and RP modifiers, but a few differences - the CEV has thicker front armour and is faster forwards, the AVRE has ERA and smoke grenades - which I think are more useful than the ESS of the CEV. The AVRE also has faster reverse (12kph vs 8), which is pretty important.
the CEV has dual gunnery control, but it’s greater magnification for the gunner sight is a bit of a 2-edged sword with hte low velocity gun IMO…
Never exactly a good sign of survivability when a Tier III WW2 era tank can easily just penetrate a modified version of the M60A1 Main Battle Tank frontally…
Based on all-player stats the Cent AVRE is still somewhat better in RB (statshark.net), but they’re close enough… but in AB the Cent does SIGNIFICANTLY better at the same BR, probably for a combination of the reasons given. I suspect because the M728 is seen as “the same as an AVRE” it’s being held at a higher BR in AB than it really should have.
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In AB the M728 is currently the “worst tank” by any metric. Not even the L3 is close, really. In RB this is the current wall of struggle buses (not counting Russian rocket and AA trucks, source: statshark.net again). The FCM is currently only #5 on the worst, H.35 is actually ahead of it, sorry OddBawz (#8 if you count the trucks, only vehicles with 10 or more total games last month counted):
Of course that only considers K/D as its measure. There is also how much fun or interesting-i-ness it is to play. Which is subjective. That is why I agree with him on the FCM. That one is just not much fun to play no matter how you measure it.
Wierd. They must have reverted it back to its original icon/link early before the time expired and it went back to hidden. And of course the store item it points to no longer exists.
