Don’t bother ever, for WT purposes. Jane’s is not an accepted source by the devs. You’d be wasting your money. You might have more luck finding something in an IDR, International Defense Review, volume. But I am not sure if volumes after its acquisition by Jane’s are accepted.
Don’t worry,i’m gonna fabricate a source saying that Sweden/Russia was interested for a month with this vehicle and reported all the specs on a half-burnt note block during the Exhibition in Turkey
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Inb4 this would get a version with the 1200 HP engine added to the Swedish/Russian tree while they leave the US version with the current engine.
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If people are willing to leak stuff on the forums, I bet you there’s a wallet warrior out there who will gladly spend the money to buff funny derp tank they just grinded with their paybrams.
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True,forgot about Gaijin’s funny Mental Olympics to not provide accurate standards to american tanks
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Gaijin Entertainment giving other nations better versions of another nation’s vehicle is such a meme in itself.
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Cool,now that you just showed us that the 120S clearly had the 1200hp engine,can we make a comprehensive report with this proof without being nuked with the classical “nuh-uh”?
but its Janes
I don’t understand what you’re talking about.
We don’t have enough evidence yet, some sources mention that the prototype was equipped with the AVDS-1790 engine from the original M60, not the AVDS-1790-9.
The only source that mentions the AVDS-1790-9 is Janes, and it’s not even clear that the AVDS-1790-9 was actually fitted, we only have a cutted single pages. We need a full explanation or further evidence for this.
Right,i forgot that one of the most exhaustive and not-biased source of information on every tank ever is literally a no-go from Gaijin when you need to fix any tank in the game,no matter the nationality.
Wait a moment. We don’t have enough evidence of the 120S mounting the 1200hp engine other than Jane’s,and it’s understandable since it is a single source
But you also don’t have enough evidence of the 120S mounting the OG engine,and yet Gaijin decided to go for this option???
You understand that this is some sort of double standards,even considering that the 120S in game mounts a 2nd gen thermal,with the only source stating this being the GDLS’s brochure of this tank,the same brochure that states that this tank has the 1200hp engine and the same brochure that i believe was used by Jane’s to describe this tank.
Janes mentions that AVDS-1790-9 engine was not equipped in the prototype.
The fully functional prototype of the 120S retains the standard M60 series power pack consisting of a General Dynamics Land Systems AVDS-1790 series diesel engine developing 750 bhp.
It is envisioned that production vehicles would have the more powerful General Dynamics Land Systems AVDS-1790-9 diesel developing 1,200 hp. This would be coupled to the Allison X-1100-5 series automatic transmission and M1A1 final drives.
- Jane’s Armour And Artillery 2005-06
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“and 240×4 or 480×2 second generation thermals, although the latter is not cleared for export in all countries at the present time”
2nd gen thermals were never cleared for export,thus they were never present, and yet this tank has them.
A modification that was easy to mount but was never mounted is present, but a modification that was easy to mount and was probably mounted is not present
This is what i was referring before when talking about “double standards”
I remember Gaijin reverting the thermals to 1st gen inside the dev server because “it was an error”,then reverted the change again without explaining the reason behind this change of mind. I guess it was because they saw that an underpowered and underprotected M1A1 was really bad at 10.0,and instead of going with a sort of an “M1 sidegrade”, they decided to give a gimmick without rightful evidences
Only 480x2 thermal cannot be exported, 240x4 thermal can be exported, and it was actually mounted on 120S.
The General Dynamics 120S is an upgrade of the M60 tank. The 120S is a unique product that integrates the M1A1 120 mm turret, equipped with a 240X4 Forward Looking Infrared Radar (FLIR), onto a fully modernized M60 chassis.
Prototype 120S has a second generation thermal and 750hp engine, so it would be a historical issue if it was implemented as a first generation thermal.
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Thanks for finally putting this to bed, at least for me. Still hope that we can get a finalized version of the 120S one day.
“… The powerpack has been replaced with an AVDS-1790-9 1200 hp diesel and a matching automatic transmission. The M120S uses M1A1-type final drives and M1A1-type driver’s controls.”
This website provides indepth history and lore to each variant.
Yeah but the website is also made for a role-playing game. Not saying that the research done by this individual is bad, just that I wouldn’t ever refer to this over Jane’s due to that fact.
Well, I’m not putting it out there as an definitive source. I’m trying to make it as where the 1200 HP AVDS-1790-9 is not completely out of the picture.
Book was published before 2005-06 Jane.
M60 Main Battle Tank 1960-91, by R Lathrop & J Mcdonald
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It should be noted that the 2005-2006 edition is not the first Jane’s book in which the 120S is mentioned. It was in 2002-2003 and possibly 2001-2002.